Being an oath taker some 43 years ago, I never would have thought we as a nation could become so vulnerable from within. I've spent 31 years combined in the Navy and Coast Guard services as active and reserves to help keep the freedoms we enjoy. Thank GOD there are OATH KEEPERS, and it will be my pleasure to be counted as one.
This is an OUTSTANDING site!
I have always taken my Oath as to mean a lifetime obligation and not just a term of service obligation. I have always been a staunch supporter of the U.S. Constitution and will remain so until the day I die. In my eyes anyone that goes against the Constitution and what it represents should have their citizenship revoked and shown to the nearest border or they should be made to spend a few years in a country where such freedoms do not exist.
It is these people that continue to do our country harm by spreading their ilk. I fear one day that if this isn’t taken more seriously that our country will eventually become a socialist nation or worse. Perhaps one day the rest of the country will wake up out of its coma and fix itself.
Unfortunately I somehow doubt that will happen without a serious intervention taking place. My beliefs in the U.S. Constitution are so strong that I flat refuse to obtain any licenses or permits that give me permission to exercise one of my Rights. Having to ask the Government for such permission not only chisels away at the Constitution. It also turns that Right in to a Privilege. If you do that enough, then eventually you will have to recognize that your Rights are not Rights at all. That they are in fact only worthless privileges which can be taken away at will by the Government.
I am not prepared to allow that to happen. If I am going to defend something I wholeheartedly believe in. I am not going to cut corners just to keep my butt out of jail. No one should. If they do, then in my eyes, they are not true defenders of their beliefs. As a active duty Sailor I am perfectly willing to do whatever I need to do to protect this country. As a veteran that has not changed one bit. Nor will it. I curse those that don’t take their oath seriously and I Honor those that do.
The Oath is not just something you say as a prerequisite to get into a profession. It is a belief followed by action towards those that oppose it.
Respectfully,
David Douthit
Veteran USN 1988-1998
CV-59, CVN-70, CV-64
You’re entirely correct that the oaths we took when we enlisted do not expire. I’m a retired Master Chief Radioman (1971-1994) and am proud to join. We are a Navy family:
My wife is a retired Chief Radioman (1977-1997), my oldest brother Roger is a retired Master Chief Fire Control Technician (1965-1993), and brother Ron served in Vietnam as a 2nd class engineman.
John E. Kee
RMCM(SW) USN (Ret)
Gun confiscation in America? In the words of General Anthony Clement McAuliffe, "NUTS!"
I'm in 100% agreement in regards to Oath Keepers. I took my oath upon enlisting in the Navy almost 47 years ago and again when I enlisted in the National Guard 37 years ago. I served on Okinawa during the Vietnam war.
I had two brothers that fought in two different wars. WWII and the Korean war. I had three uncles who served in WWII, and one retired after 20 years in the Air Force. I had two great grandfathers and one great great grandfather that fought in the Civil War and one fought in the war of 1812 so he was quite old when he fought in the Civil War 49 years later. One great grandfather was wounded in the battle of Chichamauga Tennessee. So you can see my family goes back quite a ways in our country's battles.
Another Oath Keeper - Checking inI took the Oath of Enlistment to support and defend the Constitution back in 1966.
My family has been on this continent since the 1600's and we have had military men in every generation. [As far back as I can trace at least.]
I volunteered for the Navy and wanted to learn to navigate a ship across the trackless oceans and seas that comprise most of our beautiful blue planet. In bootcamp I was unmasked as mechanically inclined and the Navy decided that I was going to spend my time in the bowels of the ship as a boilerman. [Arrrgh !]
As fate would have it after the Navy I went into the Merchant Marine and spent 25 incident free years as a Licensed Master navigating the trackless waters. [28 years in total.] I was a mustang in the Merchant Marine. In the Merchant Marine we would say that I "came up through the hawse pipe."]
While the Navy and I did not see eye to eye when I raised my hand I really did mean what I said when I swore that I Will support and defend the Constitution of the United States from all enemies, foreign and domestic.
AND by inference support and defend my "country" and my "countrymen" and their rights as well. Personally "My Country" means the land and her people not necessarily her government or governmental institutions.
Some folks seem to have a problem with the stipulation that says that I [the oath taker] will obey the orders of the officers appointed over me.
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The Enlistment Oath:
"I, _____, do solemnly swear that I will support and
defend the Constitution of the
United States against all enemies, foreign and
domestic; that I will bear true faith and
allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the
orders of the President of the United States
and the orders of the officers appointed over me,
according to regulations and the Uniform
Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
(Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the
wording first adopted in 1789,
with amendment effective 5 October 1962).
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Notice that part where it says "According to regulations and the UCMJ" ? Now I May be reading something into it But .... I don't think so. Doesn't it stand to reason that IF the order being given is in direct violation of the Constitution then it becomes "unlawful and void"? It seems so in my understanding. I do not see anything in the Oath that says I am to STOP THINKING - either for myself, my family, my unit, my country or my countrymen.
I know that some folks feel that any interaction with government of any kind is to be avoided and in my own way I agree BUT .... I really did mean my Oath. [to protect this "country" and her Constitution].
I would very much rather have the "correction" [the return to a Constitutional Republic (from the despotic Fascism we have now) ] happen nonviolently than to see my countrymen fighting each other in the streets.
Or God forbid, that my grown children or my toddler grandchildren should have to fight in the streets for their Liberty and God Given rights in my stead because I did not act.
Our shame as a nation of people who believe in Liberty and Freedom should be that our great-grand parents did not stand up to Lincoln, FDR and their ilk who gutted the Constitution while glibly lying to the population about their actual motives. FDR even wrote about his perfidy in detail. "On Our Way" is the name of the book he wrote.
In the Hope that a "show of hands" will stop the madness I will even suspend my desire for No Rulers of any kind and accept the original Constitutional Republic in place of this ridiculous mob-rule garbage (democracy) which is only face paint on a sow.
I want our Constitutional Republic back. I want our Liberties completely restored and Government greatly downsized. If a physical and violent confrontation cannot be avoided then I Am and always will be ready and willing to defend the Constitution and the God Given Rights it was written to preserve.
And I don't mean the "living document" version or the "just a GD piece of paper" version. I will defend the original version as written.
Towards that goal I am also supporting the Appleseed Project. http://appleseedinfo.org/
So .... what was the quote ?
From the founders themselves:
"We Pledge Our Lives, our Fortunes and our Sacred Honor."
Yep. I'll go that far as well.
YMMV
Capt. Gooch
USMM Ret.
Texas
III
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Eagle Scout [1963]
Navy Vet. ['66 to '69]
RWVA Mbr. [Sharpshooter]
GOA Mbr.
TSRA Mbr.
I'm the widow of a navy veteran. He served in Korea and Viet Nam aboard air craft carriers. He loved America, but came home with a dark hate for the oath breakers of the US government that shadowed the rest of his life. He was a very active life member of the VFW, Disabled American Veterans, and other civic organizations. He would have been proud to join the Oath Keepers, as he did keep that oath all his life. He died in 1986.
You might want to include widows and spouses in your invitation. Many of us are also ready to fight for liberty and honor the oaths our loved ones lived by.
As for me, my oath is the zero aggression principle. I am a retired RN and an NRA certified instructor for handguns and self defense. I especially reach out to women so they may overcome their conditioning and fears and be able to defend themselves and their children.
I am also armed at all times. I carry a gun openly everywhere I go, and work to educate anyone who asks about it. Not sure if that fits what you're trying to do, but it's my way of fighting for liberty and justice each and every day.
If the worst comes to worst, I'm too old to be on the front line, but I'll be back in camp helping to patch up those who fall. And, if God is willing, I'll be working to rebuild America when the smoke clears.
Yours, Susan Callaway
The Price of Liberty
http://www.thepriceofliberty.org
No human being has the right -- under any circumstances
-- to initiate force against another human being,
nor to threaten or delegate its initiation.
The Zero Aggression Principle
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