Sunday, March 8, 2009

Oath Keepers: Orders We Will Not Obey


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"The time is now near at hand which must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves; whether they are to have any property they can call their own; whether their Houses, and Farms, are to be pillaged and destroyed, and they consigned to a State of Wretchedness from which no human efforts will probably deliver them. The fate of unborn Millions will now depend, under God, on the Courage and Conduct of this army" - Gen. George Washington, to his troops before the battle of Long Island

Such a time is near at hand again. The fate of unborn millions will now depend, under God, on the Courage and Conduct of this Army - and this Marine Corps, This Air Force, This Navy and the National Guard units of these sovereign states.

Oath Keepers is a non-partisan association of currently serving military, reserves, National Guard, peace officers, and veterans who swore an oath to support and de
fend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic … and meant it.

Our oath is to the Constitution, not to the politicians, and that oath will be
kept. We won’t “just follow orders."

Below is our declaration of orders we will NOT obey because we will consider them unconstitutional (and thus unlawful) and immoral violations of the natural rights of the people. Such orders would be acts of war against the American people by their own government, and thus acts of treason. We will not make war against our own people. We will not commit treason. We will defend the Republic.


Declaration of Orders We Will NOT Obey

Recognizing that we each swore an oath to support and d
efend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, and affirming that we are guardians of the Republic, of the principles in our Declaration of Independence, and of the rights of our people, we affirm and declare the following:

1. We will NOT obey any order to disarm the American people.

The attempt to disarm the people on April 19, 1775 was the spark of o
pen conflict in the American Revolution. That vile attempt was an act of war, and the American people fought back in justified, righteous self-defense of their natural rights. Any such order today would also be an act of war against the American people, and thus an act of treason. We will not make war on our own people, and we will not commit treason by obeying any such treasonous order.

Nor will we assist, or support any such attempt to disarm the people by other government entities, either state or federal.

In addition, we affirm that the purpose of the Second Amendment is to preserve the military power of the people so that they will, in the last resort, have effective final recourse to arms and to the God of Hosts in the face of tyranny. Accordingly, we oppose any and all further infringements on the right of the people to keep and bear arms. In particular we oppose a renewal of the misnamed “assault-weapons” ban or the enactment of H.R. 45 (which would register and track gun owners like convicted pedophiles).

2. We will NOT obey any order to conduct warrantless searches of the American people, their homes, vehicles, papers, or effects - suc
h as warrantless house-to house searches for weapons or persons.


One of the causes of the American Revolution was the use of “writs of assistance,” which were essentially warrantless searches because there was no requirement of a showing of probable cause to a judge, and the first fiery embers of American resistance were born in opposition to those infamous writs. The Founders considered all warrantless searches to be unreasonable and egregious. It was to prevent a repeat of such violations of the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects that the Fourth Amendment was written.

We expect that sweeping warrantless searches of homes and vehicles, under some pretext, will be the means used to attempt to disarm the people.


3. We will NOT obey any order to detain American citizen
s as “unlawful enemy combatants” or to subject them to trial by military tribunal.

One of the causes of the American Revolution was the denial of the right to jury trial, the use of admiralty courts (military tribunals) instead, and the application of the laws of war to the colonists. After that experience, and being well aware of the infamous Star Chamber in English history, the Founders ensured that the international laws of war would apply only to foreign enemies, not to the American people. Thus, the Article III Treason Clause establishes the only constitutional form of trial for an American, not serving in the military, who is accused of making war on his own nation. Such a trial for treason must be before a civilian jury, not a tribunal.

The international laws of war do not trump our Bill of Rights. We reject as illegitimate any such claimed power, as did the Supreme Court in Ex Parte Milligan (1865). Any attempt to apply the laws of war to American civilians, under any pretext, such as against domestic “militia” groups the government brands “domestic terrorists,” is an act of war and an act of treason.

4. We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a “state of emergency” on a state, or to enter with force into a state, without the express consent and invitation of that state’s legislature and governor.

One of the causes of the American Revolution was the attempt “to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power” by disbanding the Massachusetts legislature and appointing General Gage as “military governor.” The attempt to disarm the people of Massachusetts during that martial law sparked our Revolution. Accordingly, the power to impose martial law – the absolute rule over the people by a military officer with his will alone being law – is nowhere enumerated in our Constitution.

Further, it is the militia of a state and of the several states that the Constitution contemplates being used in any context, during any emergency within a state, not the standing army.


The imposition of martial law by the national government over a state and its people, treating them as an occupied enemy nation, is an act of war. Such an attempted suspension of the Constitution and Bill of Rights voids the compact with the states and with the people.

5. We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty and declares the national government to be in violation of the compact by which that state entered the Union.

In response to the obscene growth of federal power and to the absurdly totalitarian claimed powers of the Executive, upwards of 20 states are considering, have considered, or have passed courageous resolutions affirming states rights and sovereignty.

Those resolutions follow in the honored and revered footsteps of Jefferson and Madison in their Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions, and likewise seek to enforce the Constitution by affirming the very same principles of our Declaration, Constitution, and Bill of Rights that we Oath Keepers recognize and affirm.

Chief among those principles is that ours is a dual sovereignty system, with the people of each state retaining all powers not granted to the national government they created, and thus the people of each state reserved to themselves the right to judge when the national government they created has voided the compact between the states by asserting powers never granted.

Upon the declaration by a state that such a breach has occurred, we will not obey orders to force that state to submit to the national government.

6. We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus
turning them into giant concentration camps.

One of the causes of the American Revolution was the blockade of Boston, and the occupying of that city by the British military, under martial law. Once hostilities began, the people of Boston were tricked into turning in their arms in exchange for safe passage, but were then forbidden to leave. That confinement of the residents of an entire city was an act of war.

Such tactics were repeated by the Nazis in the Warsaw Ghetto, and by the Imperial Japanese in Nanking, turning entire cities into death camps. Any such order to disarm and confine the people of an American city will be
an act of war and thus an act of treason.

7. We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.

Mass, forced internment into concentration camps was a hallmark of every fascist and communist dictatorship in the 20th Century. Such internment was unfortunately even used against American citizens of Japanese descent during World War II. Whenever a government interns its own people, it treats them like an occupied enemy population. Oppressive governments often use the internment of women and children to break the will of the men fighting for their liberty – as was done to the Boers, to the Jewish resisters in the Warsaw Ghetto, and to the Chechens, for example.

Such a vile order to forcibly intern Americans without charges or trial would be an act of war against the American people, and thus an act of treason, regardless of the pretext used. We will not commit treason, nor will we facilitate or support it."NOT on Our Watch!"

8. We will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to “keep the peace” or to “maintain control” during any emergency, or under any other pretext. We will consider such use of foreign troops against our people to be an invasion and an act of war.

During the American Revolution, the British government enlisted the aid of Hessian mercenaries in an attempt to subjugate the rebellious American people. Throughout history, repressive regimes have enlisted the aid of foreign troops and mercenaries who have no bonds with the people.

Accordingly, as the militia of the several states are the only military force contemplated by the Constitution, in Article I, Section 8, for domestic keeping of the peace, and as the use of even our own standing army for such purposes is without such constitutional support, the use of foreign troops and mercenaries against the people is wildly unconstitutional, egregious, and an act of war.

We will oppose such troops as enemies of the people and we will treat all who request, invite, and aid those foreign troops as the traitors they are.

9. We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies, under any emergency pretext whatsoever.

One of the causes of the American Revolution was the seizure and forfeiture of American ships, goods, and supplies, along with the seizure of American timber for the Royal Navy, all in violation of the people’s natural right to their property and to the fruits of their labor. The final spark of the Revolution was the attempt by the government to seize powder and cannon stores at Concord.

Deprivation of food has long been a weapon of war and oppression, with millions intentionally starved to death by fascist and communist governments in the 20th Century alone.

Accordingly, we will not obey or facilitate orders to confiscate food and other essential supplies from the people, and we will consider all those who issue or carry out such orders to be the enemies of the people.

10. We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on
the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.

There would have been no American Revolution without fiery speakers and writers such as James Otis, Patrick Henry, Thomas Paine, and Sam Adams “setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.”

Patrick Henry: "Give me Liberty, or Give me DEATH!"

Tyrants know that the pen of a man such as Thomas Paine can cause them more damage than entire armies, and thus they always seek to suppress the natural rights of speech, association, and assembly. Without freedom of speech, the people will have no recourse but to arms. Without freedom of speech and conscience, there is no freedom.

Therefore, we will not obey or support any orders to suppress or violate the right of the people to speak, associate, worship, assemble, communicate, or petition government for the redress of grievances.

— And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually affirm our oath and pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor. Oath Keepers

The above list is not exhaustive but we do consider them to be clear tripwires – they form our “line in the sand,” and if we receive such orders, we will not obey them. Further, we will know that the time for another American Revolution is nigh. If such a revolution comes, at that time, not only will we NOT fire upon our fellow Americans who righteously resist such egregious violations of their God given rights, we will join them in fighting against those who dare attempt to enslave them.

NOTE: please also read our Principles of Our Republic We Are Sworn to Defend

More About Oath Keepers

Oath Keepers is a non partisan association of currently serving military, veterans, and peace officers who will fulfill our oath to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, so help us God.

Our oath is to the Constitution, not to the politicians, and not to any political party. In the long-standing tradition of the U.S. military, we are apolitical. We don’t care if unlawful orders come from a Democrat or a Republican, or if the violation is bi-partisan. We will not obey unconstitutional (and thus unlawful) and immoral orders, such as orders to disarm the American people or to place them under martial law. We won’t “just follow orders." Our motto: “Not on Our Watch!” or to put it even more succinctly, in the words of , "NUTS!"

There is at this time a debate within the ranks of the military regarding their oath. Some mistakenly believe they must follow any order the President issues. But many others do understand that their loyalty is to the Constitution and to the people, and understand what that means.

The mission of Oath Keepers is to vastly increase their numbers.

We are in a battle for the hearts and minds of our own troops.
Help us win it.
www.oath-keepers.blogspot.com


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Anonymous said...

I am an active duty Air Force enlistee. My oath is dear to my heart. I am so relieved to see that it is the same for so many out there. Not only will I not obey these unconstitutional orders, I will rise and fight for my and my children's freedom. God Speed!

HoosierArmyMom said...

Fuck off, I'll get off the "black" thing when I'm six feet under, twerp.

-James
USMC

First James, thank you for your service to the USA. Second, you dishonor your own service when you perpetuate the problems with this sort of response. Obama is NOT just an African/American. He is a half white, half black marxist and elitist. You are the one who brought up race. If you want to see the wonderful man who should have been our first black President, a true American of African heritage and conservative values, check out Alan Keyes. I worked hard to try to help him get on the ballot, because he was a true Constitutionalist and loves this country. Voting for anyone, for any other reason, is just wrong. Accusing the good men on this site of being "racist" is wrong too. You should look at them more closely and ignore the trolls. You are obviously a very fine man with strong values who made it as a Marine. Now use some of that positive energy to make the world a better place.

HoosierArmyMom

Katsura Kotaro said...

"I may be one man But even I can change an entire nation." That is the words of a japanese patriot by the name of Katsura Kotaro. I belive. That his words hold truth. He defeated the japanese tyranny in 1845. In the Sengoku Reigime. I will get together yet another revolutionary army. Join me. And together we will bring back the Constition.

Doumeki Ryuto said...

I think Katsura may be right. the Constitution. Is in danger. I Will serve to protect it. With my life.

Gregory K. Sloat said...

I just happened to find this web site, tonight. I've been reading it for over two hours, and have some comments.

Great site, and I want to encourage you all to take heart. There are a lot of people (like me) who have not served in the military, but we are ready to stand shoulder to shoulder with you in defending this country and our Constitution, should it come to that. We're also taking back our country, one elective office at a time, by getting involved in local politics (where it all starts), and we are having success at doing so (and I owe a debt of gratitude to the late Aaron Russo for showing me WHO the fight is against).

We're trying to get this country back on track while we can do it without having to use force, but we are taking it back, regardless. We've learned about the tricks the enemies of freedom use (Hegelian Dialectic, false flags, propaganda, diversions like the two major political parties). We've learned that this is not a new fight, but goes back to the struggle between the liberty of Jefferson vs. the British Mercantilism of Hamilton. We're learning about the evils of central banking, and how the Federal Reserve (which is a private cartel of international bankers) is no more "federal" than is Federal Express, and why Austrian Economics is vastly superior to the Keynesian variety. We're learning how to organize and run political campaigns and win office.

We're also learning about and participating in events like the Appleseed Project, which trains citizens to become qualified riflemen with rack-grade rifles. And we're spreading the word and waking America up. In short, we're learning about Liberty, and how to spread it.

Some of you are concerned about how many who have taken the Oath in the context of their job or service will actually live up to it. I have a friend who just lost in a run for our state House of Representatives (he'll win, next time, assuming we have a next time) who is also a member of the Police Reserve, and he tells me at least 25% of police and/or military would refuse to enforce unconstitutional laws against their fellow citizens. That may not seem like much, but it is estimated that only 3% of the population actively participated in the fighting during the Revolutionary War. There are well over 60 million gun owners in America. If only 5% of them stepped up (and I suspect, given the current climate, that the number would be higher), that would be 2 million patriots ready to serve. That should be more than enough, even assuming an influx of foreign soldiers (who would be automatically "fair game"). The enemies of liberty are devious and crafty, but they are also cowards. That's why they are so urgently stepping up their efforts. They are afraid the American people are waking up (we are), and they know if that happens, WE THE PEOPLE will win.

Therefore, be vigilant, but be hopeful, because we still have time to win this fight without having to resort to force (but be prepared, just in case). We need to avoid getting bogged down in details and arguments that divert us from the true mission. Also, how about expanding the Oath Keepers to include those who take an Oath of Office to defend the Constitution upon winning an election? They (the lawmakers), more than anyone, need to have it hammered home just how serious their obligation is, and that we are watching and will hold them accountable.

As I said, I have not served in the military (and, turning 58 in 11 days, I wouldn't be allowed to), but my family has a history of service going back to before the Revolutionary War, and my brother is currently serving (career Naval officer). I can speak for all of us when I say, NOT ON MY WATCH!

GKS

T. Price said...

I, like many others here, are not military. I have several uncles that are, and had I not made some poor decisions in my younger years, I would have been as well. The military represents, to me, the core definitions of honor, integrity, and nobility in serving a cause. I have always been a patriot of this country even while loathing what our ancestors did to the people who were living on this great mass of land before they took it away.

Our country is based upon the inalienable rights of all people. I will stand with you, shoulder to shoulder. I cannot weild a gun, but I have a voice, and will use it in protest of the tyrants that wish to rule us with an iron fist. I cannot make strategic plans, but I can support those who do. I cannot inflict injuries, but I can soothe those who are injured.

I will be here. I will be with you. I am prepared to sacrifice my life in defense of those who are willing sacrifice theirs for me.

Thank you so much for holding integrity and honor to such high values. God bless you.

David Claiborne said...

I must admit, when I first saw the YouTube video I was a little bothered... the idea seemed to be that suddenly because Obama is in power we must be on the verge of a communist authoritarian state... my immediate response was, "where the hell where you for the last 8 years?!"

Reading Mr. Rhodes' comments here, it's clear you were vocal about the abuses of power under Bush 43, and I commend you for this. I tend to "lean to the left" (at least by the definition of the far-right) but while I'm very progressive, I'm a life-long libertarian who was strongly and openly opposed to many of Clinton's policies. I believe 8 years of the neocons and their crimes pushed me further to the left, but nothing can make me renounce the Constitution and my freedom.

Overall I like Obama much more than Bush or even Clinton, but his reluctance to quickly overturn Bush's "unitary executive" nonsense is very troubling to me.

I commend you for your efforts and your integrity. I pray your organization does not become a haven for the far-right movement which is clamoring for revolution not on the basis of watching a slow and steady erosion of liberties over the course of American history, but simply because liberals are now in power.

My family has been in this country since before the revolutionary war, we have fought on battlefields and toiled in the streets to make this country a better place and to preserve our inalienable rights.

I will keep an eye on your organization, if it is truly non-partisan and based on principles not power-grabbing, I will support your work and stand with you against tyranny should that awful necessity arise.

Anonymous said...

straightarrow said: "Don't get me wrong, I am glad to see that your hearts are in the right place. But it is going to take more than hearts."

When someone says "don't get me wrong..." they meant exactly what everyone thinks they did. So I don't think anyone got you "wrong".

straightarrow went on to say: "It means sacrifice, maybe blood, for sure sweat and tears. Ostracism may even be in the offing by those who will not keep their oaths. Those are the consequences of keeping your oath, or at least they could be. All that is bad enough, but what about pensions lost and careers ended when the stand is taken? How many will take that stand knowing all that will befall them?"

HUH? Are you SERIOUS? "Ostracism"? "Pensions lost and careers ended when the stand is taken"??? Do you realize that the MAJORITY of those who signed the Declaration of Independence lost EVERYTHING before the war was even over? That most were penniless and bankrupt? That in many cases they lost not only their livelihoods, but their families as well? Do you understand that to the signers of our Declaration... to our Founders... there was far more at stake than just personal possessions and/or gain???

They were willing to, and did in many cases, give up everything for freedom and independence for themselves, and even more so for future generations. Are you???

Unfortunately I am left with the belief that, based on your obfuscated words, YOU are not willing to sacrifice or give up ANYTHING for your country unless you receive a written guarantee that all will go well.

Thank God you weren't one of your Founding Fathers... because we all know where we would still be!

Thank you Oath Keepers! We support you 100%... and I feel a great sense of relief knowing that you are out there and we can count on you... as you can on US!

CaptGooch said...

On 10 April at 11:23 PM
MG said...

Hello, Capt. Gooch-
Just a note that I was defending the Constitution and its liberties, while quoting the preceding entry in personal critique.
With best wishes,
MG

Then it appears that I owe you a public apology.
I do apologize.
In my effort to attempt to keep the spammers to a low level roar I do sometimes let my human side show.

Thanks for setting me straight.

For the Republic

ObserverOne said...

We have your back. Where can I sign up? I'm not a veteran, just a Patriot. Watched the video just now and, well I was literally moved to tears. I realize there's always hope. Always. Thank you for all you do. Godspeed.

Anonymous said...

Dear Stewart,
Is there a down loadable version of the Oath Keepers movie that we can copy to distribute?

Anonymous said...

There has already been a takeover in the U.S.. We have been sold out by people claiming to represent us. Thats the fatal flaw with representative government, it can be bought. We have been enslaved in debt in perpetuity, you, your kids, your kids kids et, al. Unless we do something to change things life could soon be unbearable. The finance industry and Wall Street have captured what was once our Federal Government and therefore control the U.S. military, judiciary and Congress. Our economy is 70% consumption and 15% military. The owners of the banks and corporations that sell consumption and military products are the same people that are destroying the Constitution we aim to protect. Our government, our laws and our money have all been usurped by private interests. Military personnel and the police are receiving a paycheck originating from the people while being ordered to defend institution and corporation interests (bait & switch). Is this the legacy we are going to leave behind for our children? "The Generation That Allowed Freedom to Die" I hope not. Bush once said: "your either with us or your against us." Who is the"us" your either with or your against, the bankers or the people? Until we have a new swearing in at all levels of state and federal government, which clearly defines who is working for whom there is going to be an utter state of confusion over what side your on and what your side really stands for. Everyone is wearing the same uniform but there is division amongst the ranks. It may not be possible to know for sure who the guy giving orders is "ultimately" working to protect and defend. Is this the peoples military or does it serve other interests? It matters who is steering the ship and what plantation its headed for.

Anonymous said...

I am an elected Constable in Mobile, AL and I pledge to uphold the Constitution and not follow any illegal orders. As an elected law enforcement officer I do not directly report to anyone (except maybe the Governor) but if I were to ever get an order that violated my oath to the Constitution, I would NOT follow orders...

Timmy said...

A word of caution to all O.K's. Please dont click on the ads that are displayed in the Ustream video player being used for the Knoxville TEA party. These are scams. Especially the "I got my $12,000 stimulus check in 7 days" one!! The are many warnings being issued by the FCC and the BBB about this as many thousands of Americans have been scammed by this. IM O.K., I hope you are too

Timmy said...

Correction , The above should read FTC not FCC

BIGMack said...

WOW, According to FEMA, our founding fathers were terrorists and according to DHS, Veterans and returning soldiers are Right wing extremists, not to mention Obama-AKA Barry wants to make us pay for our own medical bills for injuries!! WTF? I hope they don't start spitting on us like the Vietnam era. I guess its not enough they use us as test subjects for their so called "vaccines" and ship us off to an illegal war to fight and die. I guess we should be thankful that those crazy ass protesters who show up at our funerals and curse our family are kept half a block away huh? At least when the DHS release their crazy ass reports equating us to "extremists" it helps to paint a clearer picture to our brave men and women who the enemy really is (This corrupt Government) and hopefully, just hopefully they too will choose to be Oath Keepers.

BIGMack said...

Hello O.K.'s,

Have a look see at this crap and tell me what you think. I say we form a posse and lynch us a traitor. Or two.

http://www.taroscopes.com/miscellanous-pages/weapons-additional.html

Mike Toles said...

I took my oath to defend the U.S. Constitution 23 years ago when I was 17 and joined the Army. It still stands!

Rick Benjamin said...

Without a foundation or center, everything becomes relative.
My base is my God and his rule book. The same base of the founding fathers when they wrote the constitution. I learned how to solve problems in the Marine Corps. "Identify issues, reduce them" I also learned to endure physical and mental stress.

I thank God for the book, the constitution, and you my brothers.
Semper Fidelis

Anonymous said...

Alfonzo Rachel's (this was the same guy who did a brief performance at the Sacramento TEA Party). He cracks me up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IOJ_ZRb4N8

Anonymous said...

http://www.patriotsheartnetwork.com/

Follow this link to the blog radio broadcast of Leo Donofrio tell of how to save our country.
It is legally possible but we have to work together! Get every Oath keeper to respond and stand guard at the Attorney General Jeffery Taylors office until a Quo Warranto. At least a million people need to back him. Check out Statue 3501...it can happen! God can save America! God bless you all! Save America!

Unknown said...

http://patriotsheartnetwork.ning.com

Listen a frustrated Leo Donofrio calling everyone to contact the only man that can successfully bring a Quo Warranto against
anyone in Public Office in Washington D.C.

WE need the promise keepers! God bless you all!
You give us hope!

Unknown said...

http://patriotsheartnetwork.ning.com/

Listen to a frustrated Leo Donofrio about
the only man in Washington D.C. that can file a Quo Warranto against any public official in Washington D.C. Check out Code 3501...every patriot needs to contact Attorney General Jeffery Taylor. Then an encampment must be made until he responds.

Thank you for defending us...you give us hope.
God bless Oath Keepers and God save America!

Anonymous said...

I'm glad to see more and more of these kinds of statements-- its good to see that the writing on the wall is visible to more people than it was 10 years ago.

But this pledge is meaningless because its incomplete. The oath they all swore was to uphold the constitution against enemies foreign and domestic, and to keep that oath they have to enforce all 10 of these points on every other soldier and "lawman" they come across.

Until they are willing to put their lives at risk to do that, they aren't keeping their oath.

Jeff said...

Oath Keepers may well be the salvation of this nation.

In other countries coups have been stopped ONLY when members of the military and law enforcement refused to turn against the will of the people.

The original Oath Keeper, Gen. Smedley Butler, did it for us before. We need today's military and police to have the guts to do it now.

Anonymous said...

A Rahm Bomb for Jane Harman?
Reported here:
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/04/a_rahm_bomb_for_jane_harman.html
And here:
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/04/dem-harman-caught-on-tape-making-deals.html
And here:
http://blogs.dailymail.com/donsurber/2009/04/20/secret-agent-congresswoman/
and here:
http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docID=hsnews-000003098436&cpage=1

I found this particular paragraph interesting -- which was mentioned in most of the links:

In exchange for Harman’s help, the sources said, the suspected Israeli agent pledged to help lobby Nancy Pelosi , D-Calif., then-House minority leader, to appoint Harman chair of the Intelligence Committee after the 2006 elections, which the Democrats were heavily favored to win.

Anonymous said...

Gird Your Blogs!
Under "Cybersecurity", Congress Will Be the Internet's Greatest Threat!

By Brad O'Leary

Gird your blogs, because if liberals in Congress get their way, President Obama will have sole discretionary authority to shut down the Internet or critical parts of the Internet should he feel his presidency is being tested. Worse, under the guise of cybersecurity, Obama will essentially be granted the power to destroy free speech on the web.

On April 1st of this year, Senators Rockefeller, Snowe, Bayh and Nelson introduced bills S. 773 and S.778, collectively called the Cybersecurity Act, which would give President Obama dictatorial power over the Internet during a time of national crisis or emergency.

All of the bills' sponsors voted for the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002 that prohibited organizations and individuals from running advocacy ads against candidates 60 days in advance of a general election. Now it seems these same people have conjured up a gag order for the Internet.

According to the current drafts, under the Cyber Security Act of 2009 the President may "declare a cybersecurity emergency and order the limitation or shut down of Internet traffic to and from any comprised federal government or United States critical infrastructure information system or network". He may also "order the disconnection of any Federal Government or United States critical infrastructure information systems or networks in the interest of national security."

What constitutes "cybersecurity emergency" or "critical infrastructure information system or network" is left completely up to the President to define. We know that the Administration, according to Rahm Emanuel, never wants "a serious crisis to go to waste". We also know the Administration supports the regulation of free speech on the Internet.

President Obama's choice to lead the powerful Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs is none other than Cass Sunstein, a radical Harvard law professor and supporter of the Fairness Doctrine for the Internet. According to Sunstein, "A system of limitless individual choices, with respect to communications, is not necessarily in the interest of citizenship and self-government."

Obama campaign fundraiser and FCC Chair nominee, Julius Genachowski, is a supporter of "Net neutrality", the first step in applying the Fairness Doctrine to the Internet.

"Net neutrality" proponents like Genachowski would have government decide what content Internet operators and network owners must provide. Incredibly, they claim this is to keep the Internet free and open to all, when in reality, their goal is to usher the heavy hands of federal regulators into the tent.

Stifling any venue where ideology competes with left-wing mainstream media has always been a goal of the left and Obama. Obama has just been more evasive in his means by supporting policies such as "net neutrality" and wobbling on the reinstatement of the Fairness Doctrine to talk radio. Liberal members of Congress are now set on sending America on an unconstitutional b-line away from Uncle Sam and directly to Big Brother.

The Cybersecurity Act is also includes a provision where "The Department of Commerce shall serve as the clearinghouse of cybersecuirty threat and vulnerability information to the Federal Government and private sector owned (emphasis mine) critical infrastructure information systems and networks." Shelving all privacy laws including the requirement for warrants, the Secretary of Commerce "shall have access to all relevant data concerning such networks without regard to any provision of law, regulation, rule or policy restricting such access." Senator Rockefeller made it clear in his statement what "relevant data" this act could include when he stated "We must protect our critical infrastructure at all costs – from our water to our electricity, to banking, traffic lights and electronic health records – the list goes on."

While we have worried about cyber attacks from Russia and China, who would have thought the greatest threat would come from members of our own Congress.

Anonymous said...

How the oath go ? April 19

Jeff Citizen said...

Greetings fellow Citizens.

I apologize for the delays on the Plan & Prep blog. I was having technical difficulties that hopefully were resolved with a new motherboard in the computer.

I have posted a new topic tonight, Basic Emergency Preparation for short term situations. I will begin working on a similar piece for long term situations immediately, but bear with me, I want to be in depth and it may take a little time to complete. In the meantime feel free to ask questions or for specifics. The next piece after Long Term Preparation will be focusing on martial law/military invasion type situations, as that seems to be the predominate topic in this area, and it will be a logical follow on in the sequence of items I plan to post. http://plannprep.blogspot.com/

Remember that this is more than just a fight to save yourself, your family or your country. Evil has much influence, in many places, and I hope and pray that you are looking at your spiritual well being as well the physical. Comments on the posts are welcome. I hope to hear from some of you soon.

God bless.

Jeff Citizen

TheMouse said...

My comment will be short, for after this week end's experience @ The Green in Lexington, MA, after having been surrounded by men of honor, men of courage, I feel overwhelmingly inadequate and unworthy to be part of this historic event. I stood with men who sacrificed a great deal to stand on hallowed ground to honor those who'd paid the ultimate sacrifice in the birth of this Great Nation and who re-affirmed an oath to defend the constitution and all the people of this great land, even if it should mean that they will soon join the men who fell on the Green so many years ago. I can not tell you the depth of privilege was mine as I moved among the crowd, clicking photo after photo, reaching out to grasp every opportunity to capture photos which by the grace of God will some day appear in history books, as children in school learn of this milestone event !! May history shine favorably on all the men, women and children who have symbolically given their lives on the 19th of April, in the year of our Lord, 2009 ... and may God be gracious that their lives never be forfeit in the redemption of this Great Land from the hands of The Enemy. May the founders of Oath Keepers find comfort in this somber moment which encapsulates us all today, knowing that tho you may have felt that you stood alone ( July4Patriot on YouTube ) you do NOT stand alone and there are millions yet uncounted who will proudly stand shoulder to shoulder with you in what ever "they" may throw at us !! May Jehovah be your pilot and your light, your buckler and your shield, a very present help in time of trouble, as you chart the waters which our children will someday call "history" !!

Paul Davis said...

We need a good 3-fold flyer to give to military and police officers. It should look as close to the blogspot / website as possible. What do ya'll think?

David said...

Sounds good!! Also, we could start a donation drive to provide each member of the military with a pocket Constitution and the 3 fold flyer with the 10 Oaths etc. What ever it takes to reach them im up for. Time is getting short people. It's critical that we do whatever we can to bring every man and women into the fold

BIGMack said...

Great Idea!! We also need to start a donation drive to send each member of the military a pocket constitution and the 3 fold flyer with the 10 oaths. We need to reach them "ALL" ASAP.

Anonymous said...

big mack

some guy was already hauled off for handing out video's to active duty personel.

called him a terrorist.

BIGMack said...

Anonymous said...

big mack

some guy was already hauled off for handing out video's to active duty personel.

called him a terrorist.



So? Being scared isn't in my blood. Are you suggesting that because the Government try's to intimidate us we should back down? Anyone who is to scared to pass out the constitution damn sure will run and hide after turning in their guns instead of standing tall and proud

Anonymous said...

This should open to a payer on a blog if not page down & hit “Home”
http://djstestimony.blogspot.com/

Police do nothing!
These are hacks some from over 11 years ago death threats & vulgar
Link http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=3BAC8E8F68508604

Active Duty JAG said...

There is a legal term for what this site proposes:

Treason.

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Anonymous said...

God Bless you all for keeping your oaths all oathful! Sic Semper Tyrannasaurus!

BrownEyedGirl said...

JAG,

I would say that refusing "ILLEGAL" orders is heroic. Following "ILLEGAL" orders as you would is treason.

USAF RETIRED @ April 27th 9:15

My brother is active duty USAF "fighter pilot" 7 years in 4 months. I got news for you, He and 90% of his fellow "fighters" agree that Obama probably isn't eligible to be president. More then 90% KNOW that 9/11 was an inside job, ALL of them love Alex Jones and are die hard Ron Paul supporters. Don't forget that most of Ron Paul's donations came from active duty military. The DHS report you refer to ITSELF is being used by these brave men and women to "Wake up" those who are still asleep. Its having a much greater impact then this site. Isn't that funny? That's how stupid this corrupt Government is. They are turning their backs on men and women who are putting their lives on the line while they still are in control of M.O.A.B.'s There will be a mutiny in every branch. Don't forget, These fighters are armed. As my brother says- As the shit is hitting the fan when they "pull" the satellites out of orbit, its still only 8 minutes to DC. Now please go away and enjoy a nice big glass of some Jim Jones kool aid

Ron Robinson said...

I an a volunteer officer (training sergeant) in a town of 130,000 in Southern California. I have been wondering about this issue for several months and was so glad to learn of Oathkeepers.

In our particular agency, volunteer officers do not take an oath, which is why we are known as 'non-sworn' officers.

But every time I report in to the Watch Commander for duty, I wonder about a tactful way to bring up the existence of this web site so he can tell the other officers on his shift.

Any thoughtful ideas on bringing this up to a superior in a tactful, non-official way?

With the recent DHS report on 'Right Wing Exttremists' I feel very sure that a great many officers in our department felt themselves identified as 'the enemy'.

Unknown said...

Now that we have all been deemed to be terrorists, or at least a terrorist threat, the lines have been drawn. I am a proud veteran of the NY Army National Guard, a proud American, and a proud Constitutionalist. To see so many of my brothers and sisters in arms uniting here to uphold our oaths to the Constitution is an attest to the spirit of the American people and their love for liberty , justice and freedom.

CorbinKale said...

Active Duty JAG said...
"There is a legal term for what this site proposes: Treason."

That is exactly what the British said about the Founding Fathers.

This site proposes that people honor their Oaths to support and defend the Constitution. Nothing more. Calling that treason indicts YOU as a domestic enemy of the Constitution and a disgrace to the uniform.

Anonymous said...

It is a honor to have ppl like you fighting for freedom Stewart and all the men and women who serve this great country. But The police state is here leo knows it, ask yourself leo or any branch that serves, when you pull someone over do citizens fear you or do you fear them. When you wage the war on drugs who does it serve? Im sure many pot arrest and warrentless Knock and talks to secure property for the state or fed gives you a rush. How about obeying natural law you know the law, it is not for the citizen but for the state which you serve.
I ask Leo what will you do when the system turns on you and your family ? I fear it will be to late by then. I wish Leo would get a rush not by oppressing its citizens but by obeying the constitution and its liberty's. Dark times are falling for all of mankind soon. There will be only two things left, being a human being or being a instrument of evil. It is not my intension to
go into believes deep down you know what is right what is wrong. you can see it at work at home in war.
The time is coming to be judged what is really in your heart and why you really put on that uniform.
God Bless the oath Keepers the last line of defense.

Dave said...

"Anonymous said...

lame. where were you internet tough guys during the last 8 years. losers."

Actually, many of us were raising hell over the hideous spending spree the republican party was on during the fist six years of the Bush administration.

Perhaps the noise didn't reach the cave you were obviously residing in during that time.

-Dave

Brent Roos said...

The Central Illinois Campaign For Liberty supports your efforts! We have also linked to your blog.

Keep up your important work for the cause of liberty, and please do not let partisan hacks disturb you personally! The cause is too important for those who are pushing a divide to get distracted.

God be with you Patriots!

Stewart Rhodes said...

Thanks Brent! As soon as we start our link list, we will add a link to your org.

Please email me at stewart.rhodes@aya.yale.edu if you are interested in a banner exchange and in working together further.

Stewart Rhodes

Anonymous said...

Sorry to go off the topic here, but it needs to be said that although the lower level "pee ons" of the Masons think their organization is Christian, the fact is that it is a Luciferian cabal. If you doubt this I suggest you read some of the books from their most respected and revered member Albert Pike. Just read "Morals and Dogmas"The "big wigs" in the Masons think Lucifer is the creator, the "morning light". True, the Masons started out as a good christian bunch, They have long been taking over at the highest levels by the Zionists and New World Order - One world government elitists. They honor Pike to this day. What does that say? You can think what you want, but anyone whos done their research knows the truth

JohnnyBadass said...

I have emailed Oath Keepers 3 times pointing out this video that shows a FEMA training class being taught that our founding fathers were terrorists. I have never even got a response. I asked for Oath Keepers to add this video to their you tube channel, but I guess this is no big deal to them. Operation Valkyrie seems to be more important of a video. Maybe Oath Keepers is to damn scared to post this video for members to see out of fear the the Government might not like it or something. lets re affirm our oaths to the constitution, but not stick up for the men who gave it to us huh? Well I'll stick up for them !! Heres the damn video link folks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPg9MdN9Gio

Yea I'M bitter

CaptGooch said...

JohnnyBadass said...

I have emailed Oath Keepers 3 times pointing out this video that shows a FEMA training class being taught that our founding fathers were terrorists. I have never even got a response. I asked for Oath Keepers to add this video to their you tube channel, but I guess this is no big deal to them. Operation Valkyrie seems to be more important of a video. Maybe Oath Keepers is to damn scared to post this video for members to see out of fear the the Government might not like it or something. lets re affirm our oaths to the constitution, but not stick up for the men who gave it to us huh? Well I'll stick up for them !! Heres the damn video link folks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPg9MdN9Gio

Yea I'M bitter

May 3, 2009 12:18 AM
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johnnybadass,
Eight hours must seem to be forever to the Most Important Person On The Planet.
You seem to think that we have nothing to do but sit around and ignore you.

I know this will be a shock to you but we are only a hand full of people still getting this organization off and running.
We still have testimonials from veterans and active duty military that haven't been posted yet.

Are you not aware that there are now ten pages of testimonials but You chose to post your rant on one of the earliest pages we have up ?

Do you honestly think that Oath Keepers is afraid to post a video because we're afraid of the Government ?
Then why would we actively ask serving military and Peace Officers to enter their testimonials ?
That seems pretty "in your face" towards the government to me.

You think we don't "stick up for" the men who gave us our Constitution ?
Why then would we travel clear across the country to be on Lexington Green on April 19th ?
Are you aware of what Lexington Green and the 19th of April means to a patriot ?


"Yea I'M bitter"

This will be another shock to you BUT the Oath Keepers didn't even know you existed until you came here and spewed your anger all over this comment page.

You say that you have emailed 3 times.
OK I believe you but do you not realize that so have about four hundred other people ?

So which one gets to be first in line ? The next one who has waited patiently or the one who just can't wait because they are just so-o-o-o important that the rest of the world should just move over and let them get to the front of the line first.

You got your video link up and Oath Keepers didn't even try to remove your impatient self-centered rant that we are so afraid to post.

Imagine that ?

JohnnyBadass said...

CaptGooch,

I started emailing Oath Keepers 4 days after this site started so I was plenty patient, Therefore your very rude attempt to suggest other wise falls short. Its your choice if you decide to post the FEMA video or not, but a simple reply to members emails who attempt to help out isn't to much to expect, or maybe it is ? Reading over my comment I fail to find any hateful, self centered rants, but your response, well, judging by your past comments to members I expected as much. Insulting people who you don't agree with is childish. I agree I was a tad out of line, yet had I just once gotten a response from OK's I wouldn't have been so bitter. I guess Oath Keepers needs an attack dog to "check" members who have a beef. Thank You for addressing my concerns.
JohnnyBadass

For what it's worth - I was on Lexington Green the 19th as well

JohnnyBadass said...

Oath Keepers, CaptGooch

After thinking it over I realize how petty I was. Instead of bitching and moaning I should have said thank you for all the hard work you all have done. I have no excuse. I can only hope you accept my apology. Even my wife is ashamed at me for the way I treated you wonderful people. Thank You for everything youve done and continue to do. Your a light in an ever darkening world. God Bless you all

Anonymous said...

When I click on: Listen to Oath Keepers Founder Stewart Rhodes on the G. Gordon Liddy Show

at the top of this blog it takes me to an error page saying object not found that the referring page seems to be wrong or out of date.

The Count said...

Your cause is my cause and my hope is, that more American Patriots will take a stand for the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

Too long have we sat and said nothing while some of our government leaders continue to thrash the freedoms our ancestors fought and died for. We can no longer be idle, for each day that passes a new law is thought up and applied to chip away at liberty.

Fellow patriots, guard your freedoms with your life for once they are taken away so will your lives be.

May God bless our country and each of us who will defend the Constitution with all we have.

Anonymous said...

http://www.newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin194.htm

CaptGooch said...

JohnnyBadass said...
Oath Keepers, CaptGooch
After thinking it over I realize how petty I was. Instead of bitching and moaning I should have said thank you for all the hard work you all have done. I have no excuse. I can only hope you accept my apology. Even my wife is ashamed at me for the way I treated you wonderful people. Thank You for everything youve done and continue to do. Your a light in an ever darkening world. God Bless you all
May 4, 2009 9:48 PM

We/I accept your apology JohnnyBadass.
Everyone should TRY to remember we here are only a few trying to keep care of many and we are only too human.
Let us all save our animosity for those who are trying to sell our country into a New World Order nightmare for their personal "free pass".

Now let us all Reach, Teach and Inspire.
For time truly is flying and our enemies still plot and plan.

Oh and JBA ... Thank you for your Service, brother patriot.

CaptGooch said...

Anonymous said...

When I click on: Listen to Oath Keepers Founder Stewart Rhodes on the G. Gordon Liddy Show

at the top of this blog it takes me to an error page saying object not found that the referring page seems to be wrong or out of date.

May 5, 2009 5:03 AM
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Anonymous,
"out of date" is the culprit.
We have no control over how long an article or interview is kept up as "current" on G. Gordon Liddy's site.
You Might try searching his site using the title of Stewart's interview as the search term ?
("Oath Keepers Founder ")

Sorry I can't help more ....

Anonymous said...

God Bless You beautiful, brave soldiers.

Thank you from my heart, on behalf of all inhabitants of this planet, and of my children. Thank you most beautiful, eloquent Stewart for leading the charge.

You do not just keep you Oath for America but your actions will also enure to the freedom of every man, woman and child this evil cabal threatens.

I will pray for your safety and for your success in the fight for freedom.

Oathkeepers, You are true heroes.

Marie G.

freedomscribe said...

My military service was more than three decades ago, yet the oath I swore then haunts me to this day, as I watch the country I love destroying the very foundations of freedom upon which it was built.

Hell, yes, I can swear this oath with pride!

Anonymous said...

My congressman can not distinguish the difference between an article and an ammendment.I asked him on radio.I have not taken the oath as I am a private citizen and the only King I accept is Jesus.I have a problem with the use of force due to this,but because the March3 1933 emergency war powers act ammended the 1918 trading with the enemy act and defined the american public as "enemy combatants" when this "government" of ours asserts any one of the ten will nots listed it will be open declared warfare against the people and at that time it will be required any person who does not do as you have to honor your oath to God to be sent to God by american lead for judgement. If we die doing so it will be better than to live as slaves or die in some camp.

Anonymous said...

I'm a Navy Vet and I am in with this group. No one said to stop obeying the Oath I took.
Molder, USS Hector (AR-7) 1972-1975

evi1joe said...

#5's explanation about the "obscene growth of federal power and to the absurdly totalitarian claimed powers of the Executive," should state that the most egregious violations of this were enacted under Bush and that--hopefully--Obama will undo them by not participating in all those signing statements and someday (once we get out of Bush's depression) can relinquish the federal power he's expressed via the outrageous spending it's taking to keep the country from becoming insolvent. Don't you hope that things are going to get better and that we're beginning to reverse the mistakes of the Bush administration, or do you think that Obama is worse (perhaps even a "socialist" or "muslim")?

One more point, I think the "mission" of the oathkeepers might more accurately read: 2. To teach them our interpretations of the principles of our constitutional republic, and even more fundamentally our interpretation of the principles of liberty enunciated in our Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights, including where we agree with such defenders of liberty as the ACLU....though I doubt that would go over as well with the pitchfork crowd.

fcb98292 said...

I applaud Oath Keepers on its protection of the fundamental freedoms early America fought England to keep. Engaging in legal battles or wording other than plain would entangle this cause in a fight of opinion and interpretation rather than keeping the fight where it was in 1775 and where it remains today, on those freedoms.

Do not compromise with those who share your views but wish them promoted in softer or less-offensive ways, for to do so will weaken your arms and muddy the trail. If you wish to persevere against the politically-correct, you must stay firm against all powers and persuasions that pretend to befriend but want to change your goal.

Americans like us are angered by the attempts to remove these freedoms, and by those who create opportunity to promote such removal as necessary or beneficial. This anger will become apparent in social unrest and attack. Such a day will begin the revolution of those formerly from the middle class.

Anonymous said...

Joe said,

including where we agree with such defenders of liberty as the ACLU..

The ACLU seems to be for every religion except Christianity. They hate Christians and what we stand for. You call them and tell them a school wont let you wear your burka and they'll go ape shit. Why they'll be bringing law suits in a minute and raising all kinds of hell, But you try to place a cross in our schools or have our children say the Pledge of allegiance at school and see what happens. Those bastards are more evil then good. Watch this 4 minute video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h02jtMIauIA

Concerned Patriot of MT said...

This is a great concept although you might want to pick up the pace so that we don’t have another Waco TX or an even more recent misuse of military force on US soil. Where were you right after Hurricane Katrina in LA when the National Guard troops were pulling American Citizens out of their homes, doing house to house searches and stealing their guns?

On the other hand, with the DHS leaving the borders open and the INS failing to do their jobs to deport illegal aliens and people with expired visas. With DHS sitting on their hands and closing their eyes to the American Jihad training camps. With Janet Napolitano pointing fingers at the legal citizens of this country and calling us extremists and domestic terrorist. The ENEMY is AMONG US. We have already been infiltrated and they (Washington DC) will use this truth to persuade the Armed Services to use force on American soil do your house to house searches to remove guns from law abiding citizens and seek out those “Real Terrorist” that are hiding among us. And you will follow every order without regard to the rights and liberties of the people. They will justify their actions with the knowledge that the Jihad, Al Qaida, Taliban or Mexican insurgents are hiding out in the towns you are ordered to assault.

So do you really think the troops and police officers and federal agents are going to stand behind the oath they swore to uphold? Even if We The People try to remind them of their violation of the Constitution, I’m sure We The People will find ourselves laying on the ground spitting blood and teeth while being told to shut up and don’t move.

If you want to gain my trust on this issue, then file criminal charges against the Governor of LA and the National Guard troops that failed to follow their oath of office, the US Constitution and the LA State Constitution. Charge them with treason and make them pay restitution for their theft and civil rights violations during Katrina. The Constitution States “all military powers are to remain subordinate to the people”, so why is it the military power is tossing the People out on their a$$es and stealing their property?

Anonymous said...

I am a law enforcment officer and have worked in numerous law enforcement agencies in the last many years beginning with the military. I have taken my oath to this country many times. I have also realized that we have had many "domestic enemies" over the years. It was recently asked of me because of my current position, what I was going to do if the federal government begins to make illegal moves against its citizenry. Its something that all law enforcement must ask themselves. I do know the difference between a "lawful order" and an "unlawful order". Finding this site with your videos and reading your mission statement goes along with what I've been feeling for some time. I anticipate that many states will take the appropriate action as outlined in the 10th Amendment. Until then, we wait for "the unforgiveable line to be crossed". I'm in a more precarious position than some of the other law enforcement officers as I work for the Department of Homeland Security. That is why I must remain anonymous. Know that there are many like us that believe that the Constitution is the supreme law of the land and we'll do whatever it takes to insure it remains intact.

CaptGooch said...

Anonymous said...
I am an elected Constable in Mobile, AL and I pledge to uphold the Constitution and not follow any illegal orders. As an elected law enforcement officer I do not directly report to anyone (except maybe the Governor) but if I were to ever get an order that violated my oath to the Constitution, I would NOT follow orders...
April 15, 2009 8:03 PM
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And much later ....
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Anonymous said...
I am a law enforcement officer and have worked in numerous law enforcement agencies in the last many years beginning with the military. I have taken my oath to this country many times. I have also realized that we have had many "domestic enemies" over the years. It was recently asked of me because of my current position, what I was going to do if the federal government begins to make illegal moves against its citizenry. Its something that all law enforcement must ask themselves. I do know the difference between a "lawful order" and an "unlawful order". Finding this site with your videos and reading your mission statement goes along with what I've been feeling for some time. I anticipate that many states will take the appropriate action as outlined in the 10th Amendment. Until then, we wait for "the unforgivable line to be crossed". I'm in a more precarious position than some of the other law enforcement officers as I work for the Department of Homeland Security. That is why I must remain anonymous. Know that there are many like us that believe that the Constitution is the supreme law of the land and we'll do whatever it takes to insure it remains intact.
May 10, 2009 8:59 PM
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First, Let me say Welcome Aboard to you both.
[did you notice that we are running a little behind the times on our responses ?]

Second, Let me offer to post a testimonial for either of you using the comment you have posted here or a separate testimonial as an email.
If you would like to add or subtract any of the comment as it is now just do so and send it to oathkeepersok at gmail dot com.
Send along a unit patch or badge [with badge number covered ?] as a photo and we can see that it goes up with the testimonial.

Thank you both for your Service and Welcome Aboard.

CaptGooch said...

Concerned Patriot of MT said...
This is a great concept although you might want to pick up the pace so that we don’t have another Waco TX or an even more recent misuse of military force on US soil. Where were you right after Hurricane Katrina in LA when the National Guard troops were pulling American Citizens out of their homes, doing house to house searches and stealing their guns?
[snip]
[snip]
May 10, 2009 4:01 PM
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Concerned Patriot of MT,

Oath Keepers is not here to file lawsuits for you nor are we here as some sort of rapid response revenge squad or whatever it is you think we are or should be.
If you were expecting some kind of "revenge group" you are definitely in the wrong place.

What we are here for is to Reach out to anyone who has sworn an oath to support and defend the constitution from all enemies both foreign and domestic.
To reach out to them and Teach them [If they have forgotten or never knew] the responsibilities inherent in that oath they swore.
And then to Inspire them to become Oath Keepers.

I Can Promise that Oath Keepers will Not stand in the way of any lawsuit you may file in NOLA on behalf of the people of NOLA.

I suggest that you spend some time reading up on our position papers as posted on each page along the right hand column.
Such as ...
Declaration of Orders We Will NOT Obey.
Principles of Our Republic We Are Sworn to Defend.
What we are Not List.
Et cetera.

Mike Avery said...

I wanted to give you guys a heads
up on a public event were planning for July 3rd , 2009.
It's a follow up rally / demonstration to our April 15th Tea Party I ran in Stroudsburg, Pa
on tax day.
We had 3 weeks to plan that one, and with a handful of concerned patriots working and
promoting the event, we had 454 people sign our log book that rainy, cold April 15th day.

We are taking it to the next level for this upcoming event and would like to invite Freedom
and Liberty promoting organizations like yours to set up a booth ( no fees of course ) to
distribute information and recruit people to the movement.

The 2nd Amendment is just as important to me as the Tax Protest portion of our movement, in setting up these rallies, to bring awareness of the unbelievable growth of the governments, Fed, State and local...

We have gotten approval to have the rally in Miller Park, which is adjacent to Dansbury Depot vintage train station, in the heart of "downtown" historic East Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania. We have a 4pm to 8pm time frame approved.

Our groups' website is : www.meetup.com/pocono-tea-party if you'd like to check us out.

If you would like to have one of the local Oath Keepers regional people set up a "booth" or table, please feel free to put them in touch with me...

Steven Miller
Tea Party Agitator
American by Birth, Patriot by Choice.
arcticsteve@yahoo.com

Anonymous said...

Remember our rights are " endowed by thier Creator with certain unalienable Rights" And our founding fathers knew this, and the first "10" Amendments are the foundation of our Constitution. Congress, the Courts, and the exective branch cannot change them, they are from our Creator!!! All others are based on these!! This I will defend..I spent 21 years in the Army fought and bleed, my son fought and died I'm a Gold star father I will not let any one destory our country!!

Unknown said...

Kudos to all of you patriotic, like-minded people. This site actually brings a tear to my eye knowing that there are those who took the solemn oath to support and defend the Constitution of this great nation. I couldn't be more proud to share your mindset. I applaud you all for taking your oaths seriously, and I'm only sorry that it's taken me just the last few years to finally wake up to the challenges we face.

Unknown said...

I wear one of the patches displayed here and have worn many military patches in the past most notably: "Follow Me", the shoulder patch of the United States Army Infantry Officer Candidate School. I have posted the Declaration of Independence a lot in my responses to arguments and other instances when folk simply appeared to have lost courage through loss of focus.

Obama's shotgun effect does that to otherwise strong people. As long as one knows they have millions of others standing with them they can maintain the state of critical thinking necessary to dispute the ravings of our wannabe tyrant.

I currently work within one of the more "misunderstood" federal organizations. We are sworn to the Constitution and while we might take a bullet for the President, he is but a player in government. The Constitution is our umbrella; to protect "The People" is our charge. Friends, you cannot tell us from anyone else on the street because we are no more important than any other citizen. That is a lesson that would-be tyrants never understand. That's why they will always lose. I'm an Oath Keeper and a federal employee.
Bill

CaptGooch said...

Steven said...

I wanted to give you guys a heads
up on a public event were planning for July 3rd , 2009.
[snip]
[snip]
Our groups' website is : www.meetup.com/pocono-tea-party if you'd like to check us out.
If you would like to have one of the local Oath Keepers regional people set up a "booth" or table, please feel free to put them in touch with me...
Steven Miller
Tea Party Agitator
American by Birth, Patriot by Choice.
arcticsteve@yahoo.com
May 15, 2009 6:44 AM
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Welcome Steven,

I will pass your Offer along to our planning staff. [Stewart]

Thank you for the kind offer.

For the Republic

CaptGooch said...

Anonymous said...

Remember our rights are " endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights" And our founding fathers knew this, and the first "10" Amendments are the foundation of our Constitution. Congress, the Courts, and the executive branch cannot change them, they are from our Creator!!! All others are based on these!! This I will defend..I spent 21 years in the Army fought and bleed, my son fought and died I'm a Gold star father I will not let any one destroy our country!!

May 15, 2009 1:24 PM
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First of all Anonymous let me offer my condolences for the loss of your son.
Let me also Thank You for Your Service.

The points you make are good ones.
I would hope that everyone here already knows [but can't ignore that they might not] that the Constitution and the Bill of Rights Do Not Give us any Rights.The Constitution and the Bill of Rights are a listing of the things that Government can not do in relation to our inherent inalienable God given Rights.

Thank you for bringing that point up for us again.
It bears repeating and repeating and repeating until every person in America can quote it in their sleep.

Welcome to Oath Keepers.


For the Republic

CaptGooch said...

Bill said...
I wear one of the patches displayed here and have worn many military patches in the past most notably: "Follow Me", the shoulder patch of the United States Army Infantry Officer Candidate School.
[snip]
[snip]
I'm an Oath Keeper and a federal employee.
Bill
May 16, 2009 9:51 AM
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Welcome Aboard Bill.

Thank you for Your Service.

Would you be interested in posting a stand alone testimonial ?
You could remain anonymous and only let your secret, your service be as public as you wish.

Write it out [this comment would be perfectly fine BTW] and email it to oathkeepersok@gmail.com.
It may take a few days to get posted but we will get to it.



For the Republic

packrat said...

My nephew is in the marines for 11 years now. Last month he was taken to Virginia to head an elite special ops team that will be tasked with eradication of Somalia Pirates. 8 man teams will be hidden on board certain vessels and when the pirates have boarded, they will engage and take no prisoners. 4 members of his team told him that a C.O. asked them in private if giving an order to shoot American citizens who would not surrender their arms would they follow that order. All four men told my nephew that they had said no, they would not. When asked by one of the men why the C.O. would ask such a question, the C.O. responded by saying that our commitment to international treaties and our international partners supersedes the individual rights of American citizens. I can tell you this friends, When the shit hits the fan my nephew and those other four men have vowed to kill that son of a bitch first. To all you traitors of this republic who are serving, you should know that no matter your rank, when you try to turn our boys on us it'll be you and others like you who are first to drop. I take comfort in knowing that our sons and daughters know full well who and what you are and it is YOU who is on their to do list. I take more comfort in knowing that you stay awake at nights wondering how your going to pull off convincing our children and grandchildren to disarm their grandpas (or uncles) at gun point. Listen up assholes, IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN !! These colors don't run and they sure as hell are NOT gonna turn on their own family and friends. I can promise you that our patriots will gut you where you stand without a doubt or a second thought. Try to sleep well thinking about that

Alvin L. Arnold, MSgt, USAF (ret.) said...

Words alone will not be enough...

To make a proper dent in the minds of those at the top of government who at this very moment do not see you (because they bouight and purchased the Office of the Presidency) we must do more!

In the 1970's Truck drivers protested the rising fuel costs by driving 15 miles an hour on our nation's highway system.

As a military member and Senior NCO I was taught to observe. I observed that our system will fall on it's face if there is no freedom of movement with our highways.

It is time for peaceful protest in shutting down our national highway system. Today on Yahoo I observed a video of cows stopping the highway! Cows!

When the corporate masters of Messiah Obama lose several trillion dollars because the highways of America are shut down... which in turn will shut down the FAA, air travel/aircraft, Trains, and also lock down our docks... then you will be seen!

It is time to shut down America's highway system in protest.

CaptGooch said...

MSgt Arnold,

First let me Thank You for your Service to our country.

Now about those cows ....
While those cows may have an agenda to take up with the TSA HERE at Oath Keepers our ONLY agenda is to Reach, Teach and Inspire.

Oath Keepers is NOT about "going out and starting something".
Oath Keepers is purely and simply about refusing to obey unlawful orders in a considered and rational effort to restore the Constitution to its rightful place as the Law of the Land.
Nonviolently IF it is possible but firmly if it is required.

So many of the "laws', rules, regulations, codes, et cetera are just so much hot air captured on paper.
They benefit only the people who wrote them.
Their only legality comes from being labeled "legal" by this government and its puppet court system. Many were never debated or voted on in Congress as is plainly required by the Constitution.
Even so the publication of this information is not our mission.

Our goal here is to [as I have said earlier] Reach, Teach and Inspire.

We own the moral high ground Because we are not trying to "Cause" anything to happen we keep the high ground in the same manner.
Let the tyrant wannabe's "start" things .... we WILL finish them once they are started.

Please stay on mission.

Thank You.

Anonymous said...

Hey its a great idea and perhaps I missed it, but if somebody who takes this oath or has taken the oath is given grief by government officials who violate the constitution, what if anything will these oathtakers do about it? If nothing, they will just pick you off one at a time. Please clarify and apologies if it was posted somewhere else.

CaptGooch said...

Anonymous said...
Hey its a great idea and perhaps I missed it, but if somebody who takes this oath or has taken the oath is given grief by government officials who violate the constitution, what if anything will these oathtakers do about it? If nothing, they will just pick you off one at a time. Please clarify and apologies if it was posted somewhere else.
May 21, 2009 12:46 AM
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Anonymous,
There has NOT been nor will there be a statement of "What an Oath Keeper is to do when ...." .

Realizing that We are each of us responsible for our actions and reactions, We Oath Keepers as an Organization will never presume to tell our brother and sister members what they "should do".
That would be the same sort of nanny state tyranny that we are trying to prevent.

They [We] are Oath Keepers.
They [We] will know what is the Proper Response when the time arrives.

One would hope that any present and witnessing Oath Keeper would stand with their "Brother" or "Sister" Oath Keeper in their moment of "need" but there is No Requirement to any specific action.
One is and always has been Free to react in any way one chooses.
One Must simply be willing to face the consequences of any choice one makes BUT that has always been true.

Some Oath Keepers may choose to resist nonviolently and some may choose the opposite.

[Keeping in mind that a "strategic retreat" to reform and reengage the enemy at another time or place is completely "proper" in some instances and has been for millennia. No matter how much it galls one at the time.]

Their response is for each Oath Keeper to choose at the time of the "grief giving".

That said .... Oath Keepers is NOT about planning out every single action and reaction.
We are about Prevention by Education.
Our stated and ONLY goal is to Reach, Teach and Inspire all oath takers to become Active Oath Keepers.

How about YOU ?
Are you an oath taker ?

If so .... Will You be an Oath Keeper ?

May 21, 2009 11:17 AM

Alvin L. Arnold, MSgt, USAF (Ret.) said...

I understand your position.

I am one that believes in accountability for one's actions. Thus if I am the one driving 15 mph everywhere in town, and on the nation's highway system I can probably receive a ticket for my actions. For some reason I don't see myself getting arrested for such an act.

MSNbc, CNN, and even the President of the United States stated they had no knowledge of the Tea Parties, and in many of the online chat programs (PalTalk) they referred to the participants after the fact as "Red necks and Bigots."

This issue is not a matter of race, nor is it in my mind a matter of our voting system. A purchased election is my opinion. His qualifications to be the President (i.e. "Natural Born") have not been proven to me.

Peaceful protest is an option. Some of you fear the outcome, and you fail to see the issue of "Personal Accountability" of those who may riot and potentially harm, maim, and kill others. We can argue this point at length...

For over 100 years in some instances the american people have allowed the inner cities to be poorly managed. The elected representatives of these cities have allowed their city's conditions to deteriorate to the point where many in their population centers feel unsafe, ignored, uncared for, and used.

We have stood by and allowed children to murder children.

Shut down America's highway system for 3 weeks and these areas described above will probably become a place where you wouldn't want to venture out of during daylight... we already know you don't want to be caught roaming those areas at night.

Perhaps... this is what it will take to fix the situation?

CaptGooch said...

Alvin L. Arnold, MSgt, USAF (Ret.) said...
I understand your position.
I am one that believes in accountability for one's actions.
[snip] [snip] [snip]
Perhaps... this is what it will take to fix the situation?
May 21, 2009 1:00 PM
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MSgt Arnold,

You are, Of course, perfectly free to do as you wish while mindful of the consequences.

I will not even speculate on any outcome of any action that is not in the Best Interest of The People of this country and our Constitution.

I think IF you will read our 10 Orders again you will find that We Oath Keepers are Not going to obey any order that would turn our cities into "concentration camps".

Quote:
6. We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.

7. We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.[end quote from 10 Orders]

And yet this is what you suggest ?
"Shut down America's highway system for 3 weeks ..."

No Sir. You are not talking like an Oath Keeper.

Planning specific actions other than public meetings and gatherings puts Oath Keepers in jeopardy.

These comment pages will NOT be used to plan any specific action anywhere other than public meetings and gatherings.

Attempts to use these comment pages to do so will be removed.




Not on Our Watch

ARMY OF ONE said...

WOW CaptGooch

It's hard to think that Oath keepers would be against the people if they decided to exercise their rights to assemble no matter where they gather. Or are you just saying Oath Keepers would not participate? You would just stand on the side lines? I guess the 10 Oaths (to NOT follow said orders) doesn't say anything about standing WITH the people against our military, law enforcement or foreign forces to enforce the scenarios described in the oaths though huh? I get it now !! You wont join those who move on us to take our guns by force and you wont use force to help us defend those rights either.. I see that no matter the peoples will to exercise their rights, Oath Keepers is content with requesting a permit (which they did) to gather on the very grounds the revolution started on. If the people of this country decided to take to the streets or highways or even the local
wal mart, your ass should be there too. And if Dutch troops are roaming our streets, going door to door demanding our weapons at gunpoint or firing on protesters, I expect YOU and every other decent able bodied person to defend us and our liberties to their last breath. Dont just tell us that you "wont work with those who would destroy our constitution or harm us". Tell us you will stand with us, that you will fight and die if necessary to protect our GOD giving rights.

Unknown said...

Originally Posted by Thomas Jefferson
"God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion.
The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is
wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts
they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions,
it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ...
And what country can preserve its liberties, if it's rulers are not
warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as
to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost
in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
It is its natural manure."

CaptGooch said...

ARMY OF ONE said...
WOW CaptGooch
It's hard to think that Oath keepers would be against the people if they decided to exercise their rights to assemble no matter where they gather. Or are you just saying Oath Keepers would not participate?
[snip] [snip]
Tell us you will stand with us, that you will fight and die if necessary to protect our GOD giving rights.
May 24, 2009 2:17 AM
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So finally the agents provocateur show up ? Maybe.
Maybe it is just someone with poor reading skills.
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Hello Army of One.
Does the Army know you are defaming their recruiting sales pitch ?

I fully intend to stand with my brother Oath Keepers and defend the Constitution, Bill of Rights and The People of these united States as needed when needed to the extent needed and YES even to the death if needed.
I really don't understand where you get the idea that Oath Keepers and or myself are going to simply "just stand on the side lines".

Do you think I am going to make detailed statements about the extremes that I am willing to explore in defense of any of my countrymen and brother oath keepers so you or someone else can manufacture false charges of "terrorist threats" against me and or Oath Keepers ?
It is to laugh.

You obviously misunderstand the comment I made about using these comments pages to plan aggressive actions of any kind against any person or organization.

If Folks want to use these pages to arrange to meet up and gather together you and they are welcome to do so.
That is the secondary reason we are here.

However ....
Using these pages to foment any sort of or form of aggression against any person or organization will NOT be tolerated.

The person I was addressing wanted to "blockade the highways" around some of the major cities to force the inhabitants to turn on each other in a form of "ethnic cleansing" although the term was never used.
THAT is who I was addressing.
Are You now trying to support his point ?
That would be aggression of the worst sort. Aggression against total innocents who just happen to live in one of the cities he chooses to blockade.

So to recap ... first you misread [or misunderstand] the comment I make and then you jump to two or three conclusions based upon that incorrect reading.
And I am supposed to "defend" myself ? For what ?
All of this outrage from someone who doesn't clearly understand what I have stated or why ?
Go back and read the actual words I used.
You will find I was informing someone that these pages will not be used to foment any form of aggression against any person or organization for any reason.
Period.

The Defense of yourself or your family, community, brother or sister Oath Keepers has NO boundaries. No "Limits".

Slow down and actually read the words please. It will save me a lot of typing and you a lot of embarrassment.





Not on Our Watch

Army Of One said...

CaptGooch

No, as the poster stated, "Peaceful protest is an option. Some of you fear the outcome, and you fail to see the issue of "Personal Accountability" of those who may riot and potentially harm, maim, and kill others. We can argue this point at length..." You know as well as anyone else reading his comment EXACTLY what he said and meant. That if the PEOPLE decide to
"PECACEFULLY PROTEST" by taking over the highways and bringing this country to a stand still and if the thugs in the inner cities decide to riot or worse and thus get what they deserve then thats tuff luck. So, we shouldnt (attempt)to take over our own country peacefully out of fear that "bad apples" might not like it and riot and therefor pushing the people to respond to their lawlessness? The poster said nothing about aggression so why are you even saying that these pages wont be used to plan it? The only aggression he implied would have come from criminals in the cities who tried to take advantage of the peoples right to protest and the legal right of the people to defend themselves against it. Embarrassment? I'M not embarrassed of anything. Whats embarrassing is that no where in the 10 Oaths does Oath keepers state that they will defend our people and rights. I would think OK's would be proud to state in the oaths that if a foreign force (or our forces) tried to blockade our cities, take our guns or push us into FEMA camps, that OK's would do everything and anything to stop it, including using force. You think its more important that you not stand up and state it out loud out of fear that BIG brother might attach a label to you then to let it be known to everyone that you will fight those bastards in the streets? What can I say to that Gooch? Look Brother, I sure aint trying to kick up dust here and I know in my heart that you and the rest of Oath Keepers means well. I dont want Oath Keepers to lay out a battle plan , but why isnt there one little bitty statement stating that not only will Oath Keepers NOT follow said orders, but will join with the people to defend against those who try to violate our rights?

My name is John Gordon, I am an Army Of One and an Oath Keeper

Alida Antonia Cornelius said...

Is Oath Keepers a legal non-profit?
Are contributions tax-deductable?
Are you going to post where the money goes?
Thanks.

CaptGooch said...

Hello John Gordon,
My name really is Captain Gooch.

So you do not see blocking the highways around a city for three weeks or more as aggression ?

Peacefully marching ? For three weeks ?
Sure go ahead and march BUT when you remove the ability of the folks within that city to leave if they want to then how is that not aggression ?

Peaceful marching .... for three WEEKS ?
Your right to express your opinion never gives you or anyone else the right to interfere with another human beings right to move freely.

Suppose there was a large group of folks who surrounded your neighborhood while "peacefully marching" and refused to let your neighbors, you or your family out for any reason. For three weeks.
Would you consider that aggression ?
How is it different ?

The original suggestion was to:

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quote
For over 100 years in some instances the american people have allowed the inner cities to be poorly managed. The elected representatives of these cities have allowed their city's conditions to deteriorate to the point where many in their population centers feel unsafe, ignored, uncared for, and used.

We have stood by and allowed children to murder children.

Shut down America's highway system for 3 weeks and these areas described above will probably become a place where you wouldn't want to venture out of during daylight... we already know you don't want to be caught roaming those areas at night.

Perhaps... this is what it will take to fix the situation?
end quote

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So ... in an effort to get the attention of the professional political parasites in Washington or the media the plan is to turn a city or many cities into "rat traps" so the inner city people can riot and murder their way to a good form of government ?
Sorry I don't "get it".

Trapping the citizens in a city hoping that the ensuing riots will get headlines is something right out of Stalin's play book.
"Oh Look they are rioting we should bring in the tanks ..."

How is that NOT Aggression against the innocents in those cities ?
Because the elected officials of our bigger cities have messed up horribly it then becomes alright to sacrifice the citizenry of a city for the headlines to get the attention of the rest of the media and country ?
How is that NOT aggression on the people of that city ?

I REALLY don't "get it".


The point I am continually making here is that this blog site is NOT about trying to plan or even discus any form of aggression. Period.

I am sorry you feel that we have not lived up to your expectations.

The thing is we are not here to live up to your expectations.

We are here to Reach out to our brothers and sisters in arms to attempt to Teach them the awesome responsibility they have accepted when they swore that Oath to support and defend the Constitution.
We are here to Inspire the oath takers of this country to become Oath Keepers.
We are also here to express our solidarity amongst ourselves and to form connections of support between ourselves in preparation for whatever time and the fates may bring.

There is not going to be any declaration of what we intend to do beyond what we have already made.
If that is not sufficient for you then please feel free to go start your own blog and your own organization.
Oh and you might want to brush up on the sedition act as well while you're at it.




Not on Our Watch

CaptGooch said...

Alida Antonia Cornelius said...
Is Oath Keepers a legal non-profit?
Are contributions tax-deductable?
Are you going to post where the money goes?
Thanks.
May 26, 2009 8:38 PM
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I am not aware of our seeking non-profit status but it is possible.

The place to ask is oathkeepersok@gmail.com and put "non-profit status ?" in the subject line.

Thank you for stopping to read our blog site.
Have you looked around any ?
There are now about 11 pages and this one is one of the older ones.




For the Republic

CaptGooch

CaptGooch said...

John Gordon,

You sure seem to want to start an argument.
On the one hand you claim to not want to "kick up dust" and yet that is AFTER you say something like ....

"You think its more important that you not stand up and state it out loud out of fear that BIG brother might attach a label to you then to let it be known to everyone that you will fight those bastards in the streets?"

That sure seems like kicking up dust to me John.

You presume to know our intentions and you don't.
You presume to know our reasons and reasoning and you don't.
You presume entirely too much sirrah.

Do you honestly think that we are afraid of Big Brother ? While we are waving our 10 Orders we will Not Obey right in Big Brothers face ?
You obviously don't understand what you are seeing do you ?
This is NOT television John just because it is on a screen. This is the real thing.

And by the way Anybody who is not afraid of that blind and blindly lumbering lummox Big Brother is a fool and I am not a fool John.

What I or any other Oath Keeper will do in any future situation is not pertinent to our mission here nor is there any way to say with any true honesty exactly what I or anyone else will do or would do.

IF you really need to thump your chest and rattle your saber then take it somewhere else.
We are not here to chest thump or saber rattle.
We don't need to "Prove" anything to anyone.
Especially to a person who assumes to know who and what we are and will do when they OBVIOUSLY do not.

What we are doing and will continue to do is Reaching out to our brother and sister oath takers in an effort to Inspire them to become Oath Keepers.

And that is all.





Not on Our Watch

CaptGooch

Alida Antonia Cornelius said...

This site seems to want to stir up discontent. And if it's not a non-profit, then who is going to make the bucks from it?
Read this blog about whether "revolution is nigh".
http://tiny.cc/4QsuG
I mention Oath Keepers in it.

CaptGooch said...

Alida Antonia Cornelius said...
This site seems to want to stir up discontent. And if it's not a non-profit, then who is going to make the bucks from it?
Read this blog about whether "revolution is nigh".
http://tiny.cc/4QsuG
I mention Oath Keepers in it.
May 28, 2009 4:42 AM
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Thank You for the advertising.

Oath Keepers is not about "stirring up discontent". We are about Honoring our Oath to the Constitution.
SOME of the folks here are much more angry about the duplicity of our elected officialdom than others and some are angry enough that they are already imagining scenarios wherein violence has already been initiated by the tyrannical fascist government we already have and then they expound on their theoretical responses to that imagined scene.
I don't see that as "stirring up discontent". I see it as "blowing off steam" that might otherwise exhibit itself physically somewhere else.

Profit vs non-profit.

You seem to have a fixation on money and its role in everything.
You seem to be intimating that this entire organization is an attempt to "fleece" our membership. Where would such an idea come from ? The depths of YOUR mind ?
I know Mr Rhodes and I can tell you he is NOT about to "fleece" anybody he has much too much self respect to even consider it.

The fellow you quoted was only concerned with classing people by "incomes" and or their "wealth" status. More Money fixation ? It would seem so to me.

Not everyone in the world is so concerned with the almighty Buck.
Some, and I include myself in this, have pretty much given up on the "American Dream" as a tool of the tyrant used to keep people occupied with their accumulation of "wealth" instead paying attention to the fact that their chains as economic slaves are being custom made to fit each and every citizen and by him or herself.
"I want my MTV ..." Or I-pod, or TV Sports Shows, or "American Idol" et cetera ad infinitum.

Does the phrase "bread and circuses" remind you of anything ?
It should.

The money accumulated by the organization will be spent in support of the organization. To buy supplies, to buy retail goods to keep that support money flowing, to support the Oath Keepers travel expenses when necessary to events showcasing our message and mission. Et cetera.


Please do Feel free to query our Founder Mr Stewart Rhodes, Esq. at stewart.rhodes@aya.yale.edu for more information. IF he decides to answer such obviously leading questions.
Oh and FYI Mr Rhodes really IS a Constitutional Scholar and Attorney at Law.

Anonymous said...

I am a veteran, and a Professor of Constitutional Law. I am posting anonymously because universities are only open to certain free thoughts, and the freedom to refuse an unlawful governmental order from the Obama Administration is not one of them.

I would suggest to anyone who thinks that taking this oath is bizarre, and that "such things would never happen here" needs to study history more closely. Change doesn't come slowly and tyranny doesn't "evolve." It comes quickly, and it comes in times of crisis, justified by a "compelling need." Once the "compelling need" is over, the tyrannical solution never leaves.

I won't sign the oath, but I am glad to know that there are those of you in uniform who won't blindly follow orders, and who will consider the Constitutional implications of any order you are given.

CaptGooch said...

Welcome Professor.
Thank You for your service.
And Thank You for speaking out here with us.

You said ...
"I won't sign the oath, but I am glad to know that there are those of you in uniform who won't blindly follow orders, and who will consider the Constitutional implications of any order you are given."

Which causes me to wonder ....
You say you won't sign but will you resist the tyranny all the same ?

Will you teach the real history of our country and the truth to our young people who come to you for education and guidance ?

This really is a battle for the hearts and minds of our people.
Please, at very least, attempt to shake loose the socialist blinders from their minds ?



I am reminded of a statement by our Founding Father Edmund Burke:

"People crushed by law, have no hopes but from power. If laws are their enemies, they will be enemies to laws; and those who have much to hope and nothing to lose, will always be dangerous."

Would that my grand parents had stopped this idiocy when they were the responsible party. [Back at the turn of the 20th century]
It May be that they did not recognize the monster for what it was, and is, but none the less I absolutely refuse to pass this "burden" along so my grand children can, and will, be saddled by it.

I intend to stand with my Oath Keeper brothers and sisters and refuse to obey any unlawful [unconstitutional] order in the sincere hope that our stand will restore or start the restoration of the Constitutional Republic the Founders intended.

I will not be holding my breath on that but I will not deny my duty to try either.

Thank You for joining us and for speaking out.




For the Republic

AntiVigilante said...

Baboy, I am calling you out. First the topic of credibility is irrelevant here. Would anyone of you choose to stop honoring the Constitution because a few people have unorthodox ideas? The beauty of this movement is that it is on the job. There is not a single officer who would decide to serve the state during their civil and military duties with or without the group. This movement is both organized and individual and no division agents and jellyfish will have an effect.

The red herring of 9/11 truth = death to the movement is a load of bull.

We made the term false flag operation global. The favorite trick of tyrants is naked and exposed. The next disaster will have a fraction of the hysteria it would have without us. You'll also note Stewart Rhodes has appeared on Alex Jones. Did they talk 9/11? No, because unlike the armchair elitists (baboy) in the movement who are afraid of how they will be viewed, Alex Jones and Stewart Rhodes can stay on topic.

The debate until you die scenario is a hoax. I've seen it flare up whenever important events come up. But funny thing is it's done by people who think exactly that way, that you should be silenced because you believe something un-mainstream.

I have no intention to go on about thermite. It's irrelevant. Liberties are exiting stage left. Where do you stand?

You will have 9/11 truth on here because we know what's at stake just like every veteran and peace officer who has signed on. 9/11 truth means support for the dying firefighters killed by the lies of Christine Todd Whitman who said the air around the towers was safe. My what a crazy idea, supporting firefighters is.

But we also know what time it is. This bullcrap about segregating the movement is ancient history. It was cute the first time, but really this self-serving preselection of patriots is rather boring.

I applaud Stewart Rhodes and his efforts and will do everything in my power to make this effort go viral.

This isn't the place to wrangle about how many times NIST agreed with our complaints but not our conclusions so I'll stay off the topic. It's pointless. But I will stand up to division agents, provocateurs, dual account trolls, and spineless jellyfish who've never once held up a picket sign.

-AntiVigilante

QB said...

Yea screw you baboy......

No, I dont want to get his mouth started again here but screw him anyways.

AntiVigilante Great post. I wont get into the whole 911 Thermite thing either. Why bother right? we all know the truth (or NON truth) anyways. I will say that my friends and family had a 2 day cook out from friday afternoon till 4 AM last night. Non stop food on the grills. I was shocked to see that the grill didnt melt or collapse into a heap at free fall speed. I'M sure that the next big cook out will be the end of this ole grill though.I'M sure

Anonymous said...

Thank GOD some good, moral, just, people still exist in this world. How amazing the level of consciousness among this group! Continue to grow! God save this Constitutional Republic, Death to the NWO!

Anonymous said...

"This site will fail if it supports the official 9/11 line. Anyone with above a third grade education knows 9/11 was an inside job. I know hundreds of serving men and women of every rank that KNOWS 9/11 was an inside job. This government murdered over three thousand of its own citizens for a neo-con agenda. If you don't accept this, I suggest you walk off a high cliff. Before you trample the souls of the fallen on 9/11, I suggest you research. I would suggest you start by watching the movie " Fabled Enemy's" and "9/11 Coincidences" and "Loose Change" all free on Google video. After watching these videos if you still feel it wasn't our own government, then you don't want to believe."

To the person who posted above. It is not a matter of "wanting" to believe either the official version or some other version. It is a matter of what the evidence points to. I have looked at the sources you mention above and do not find them convincing. There is no evidence in "Loose Change" for instance. If you think there is, then you don't know how to evaluate evidence.

freedomscribe said...

Concerning the poster talking about 9/11. I happen to agree that the official story is garbage, and I have seen very convincing evidence that it is - not in the films you mentioned so much as in 9/11 Mysteries, which really opened my eyes.

But that is beside the point here. We should not forget our focus and why we are here. Did you take an oath to uphold and defend the U.S. Constitution? Does that oath mean something to you? Will you keep it, regardless of who is giving the orders? That is what Oathkeepers is about, and it really doesn't matter who buys the party line on 9/11 and who doesn't. There are dozens of organizations gathering evidence and discussing 9/11. But there is only one (that I know of, anyway) for folks who have mutually committed to keeping their oath, and if we keep our focus we can all work together to preserve our Constitution.

Kate

Anonymous said...

My father served three tours in Vietnam. I was raised in a military family. We were stationed all over the world during the Cold War. As a result I lost my innocence pretty quick in this life. I was the only kid in 6th grade who could sight and clean my .308 sniper rifle. There are more like me. We can see the freedom we payed so much for disappearing with each new administration.

While politicians are always a shady bunch. The last 50 years of Congress, and the Executive branch have yielded nothing but traitors. Obama like the Bushes, and Clintons before him are nothing but face men for an evil the likes of which this planet has never seen before.

The owners of the Federal Reserve (That's right I said owners. Do your homework. It is neither, Federal nor is it a reserve. It is, in fact, a privately held bank that has never been audited in the entirety of it's existence.) have been selling out America for the sake of their New World Order for over five decades. You can read all about it in David Rockefeller's book, David Rockefeller: Memoirs. And I quote, "We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries."

More over, “For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as "internationalists" and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."

C'mon folks how much more do you need? I see no reason why we shouldn't be trying the lot of them for treason right now!

Nonetheless, God bless you guys. Be safe, and be strong.

The Constitution is fine document as long as we have the balls to defend it.

ty said...

To Anonymous at June 9, 2009 5:14 PM

As the original poster said, if you believe more in the official story then the evidence posted in the videos then you can walk off a high cliff. Your statement tells me you were either in on it in some way, a zionist shill or a damn fool. In either case your of no use to this country. You better hurry and turn American Idol on before you miss it and dont forget to drink your fluoride water and take all your shots like a good sheeple

To Kate,

I'M glad to see your awake. I know there's many different sites that deal with 9/11 and I know this site is about keeping the oaths so I wont get to far into the whole 9/11 thing, but I feel its important to praise those who speak up about it, no matter where they speak out. Its never
"beside the point" as you say. Anyways, I want to Thank You for saying what you said about the official story being garbage. You have a good soul

CaptGooch said...

Thank You all for maintaining a modicum of decorum with the trolls that try to get us arguing amongst ourselves and over a totally different subject no less.

That said now let me remind all here that our message and our mission is to support and defend the Constitution of the united States of America from all enemies foreign or domestic and that the best tools we have at present is ourselves.
We each are the tool that Oath Keepers needs to Reach, Teach and Inspire.

Reach out to all of our fellow Oath takers and ...

Teach them if they didn't know or have "forgotten" the responsibilities we agreed to when we swore that Oath.

To Inspire is our ultimate goal.
Inspire all oath takers to become Oath Keepers.
Inspire all of our Active Duty or Reserve Military and Active Duty or Reserve Peace Officers to Keep the Oath they swore and to refuse to Obey any unlawful order no matter the source of that order.

Pass the word.



For the Republic

Unknown said...

I proudly voted for Obama in the previous election, and I will be heading to OCS in Quantico, VA to take the oath and become a United States Marine in the near future. I will be proud to call myself an Oath Keeper. There goes all the 'anonymous' idiots racists anti-Obama claims. Go back to your world of warcraft and final fantasy, this is big boy stuff.

Anonymous said...

My names Daniel Botsford and I've been looking for you guy's and gal's since 1994! I swore to uphold the Constitution of this Country and served proudly for 11.5 years. I am a former Army tanker and veteran of D.S. I am proud to stand with you and look forward to the day our Constitution is once again the law of the Land.

God Bless America!

Anonymous said...

You've got a Great website!
Please go to my petition page (URL below) and sign it. Thank you. Gordon Kissinger
Obama's Ineligibility To Be President Of The U.S.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/obama39s-ineligibility-to-be-president-of-the-us

Anonymous said...

I showed you video to dozens of my friends all of whom are active duty at Seymour Johnson Air Force base. 26 of us have signed a petition which will be sent to you stating that while we believe in your cause and will uphold the constitution, we refuse to associate ourselves with you as long as your group associates with and god. If you remove such things as, "so help us God" we will immediately join your ranks.

Included in out letter to you is our names, rank, and contact information. When I signed up to serve I refused to swear, promise, or align myself with any god, including yours.

My fellow serviceman agree. This is non-negotiable. We want to join and affiliate ourselves with Oath Keepers, but will not associate ourselves with any god. If you accept this condition than know that we have each agreed to donate 250 dollars to your (our) cause.

Keep up the good work.

Elias Alias said...

To the anonymous post-maker who vows to continue to post his political views here - and to other voices here who rudely intrude into the Oath Keepers mission by injecting distracting and questionable statements here, I say to you all -

Sirs, I am an administrator here at Oath Keepers. I'm an honorably-discharged U.S. Marine and veteran of the Vietnam war. I'm also a proud 9/11 Truther and a member in Scholars For 9/11 Truth And Justice. I'm also an amateur historian who focuses primarily on the Intelligence communities of Britain (MI-5 & 6), Israel (MOSSAD), Pakistan (ISI), and the united States (CIA, DIA, NSA, NSC, NRO, etc). I am keenly aware that CIA (and other "western" Intelligence agencies) have been on the ground in Iran to destabilize that nation from within. I've read the entire report on Operation Ajax, nine years ago when it was released. I've read the Northwoods Document and have written articles on it. I also am keenly aware of what is being done inside our own nation now by our own Intelligence community.

I mention these things to you in order to help you get a grip on reality. I am just as concerned and alarmed as you are. But I do not discuss any of the above topics here at Oath Keepers, and I'd appreciate it if you'd refrain from discussing such issues here also.

This site is for one purpose only, and that has to do with the keeping of one's oath to the U.S. Constitution. Oath Keepers does not make "stands" on any issue other than the keeping of the oath.

Oath Keepers is not going to allow itself to be co-opted by any special interest or any single subject. Oath Keepers stands firm with only one focus - the oath to support and defend the U.S. Constitution.

Please try to figure this out, okay? Please do not try to use this site to promote your insightful knowledge or your pet peeves. This site is not about U.S. foreign policy, U.S. domestic policy, U.S. Intel "ops", taxes, the Federal Reserve, the mass media, secret societies, U.S.-sponsored false flag events, chem trails, MK-ULTRA, vaccine pros and cons, social Darwinism, microwave towers, trans-humanism, the Genome race, Dyncorp's slave market, the Pentagon's missing trillions of dollars, mind control, propaganda, or any particular sitting President.

We are about only one thing - Oath Keeping. I would appreciate it greatly if you'd quit muddying the waters here with your zeal and passion for "spreading the truth".

We already know the awful and ugly truth. We get it. But we are not going down by the hand of agents provocateur or by the silly psy-ops of the ADL or the SPLC or, for that matter, by the hand of our domestic Intelligence operations such as Homeland Security.

It's time for you to get a grip on the reality of Oath Keepers. Help us; do not hinder us.

If you wish to talk about your perceptions of "truth", especially 9/11 Truth, please allow me to invite you to go to my personal site - The Mental Militia. Please register there, and talk all you want. Just please cease with it here, okay? Thanks.

http://www.thementalmilitia.com/forums/

Salute!
Elias

Anonymous said...

Elias Alias ,

With all due respect Sir

I have been spreading the word about this site since day one. I have donated money and joined the fellow OK's on Lexington. The reason I posted what I posted is because this site started posting bull crap about what happened during the Iranian elections. This is clear propaganda. as a matter of sir, there is much more evidence that shows the events that occured in Iran were from outside sources and more then likley from our own government, but OK's went ahead and posted non sense anyways. It seems OK's is the one who went off in the wrong direction. How can you say this site is for one purpose only while posting lies and propaganda? What the hell does the events in Iran have to do with "keeping the Oath"? I guess its ok for OK's to say whatever, but god forbid that anyway else speaks up huh?

Anonymous said...

First and foremost: I commend those men and woman who defend our personal freedoms, past, presant, and future. I have never served in the armed forces, nor do i care to. I have taken an oath to God to defend His truth, to death if necessary, so i understand the commitment. I've only one question: Under the constitution the president has to be a natural born citizen, right? If so, Then the man in the white house needs to prove he is one. www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/?p=729 is where a petition to have the courts check into this is at. Now, if our president is not a citizen, then we have an imposter leading our country into hell!

Anonymous said...

The way Obama is taking over the country, and with his obvious contempt for our constitution, i have no doubt that a point will be reached when those of us who are loyal to the constitution and the America the founding fathers designed, will be forced to take action to preserve our rights.
I have seen numerous bumper stickers, tee-shirts, etc, saying "you can have my gun when you can pry it from my cold,dead fingers". I wonder how many people are truly willing to fight for these values and principles. What a shame it will be if the fight we engage in to defend & preserve our lifestyle will against our own government.

Jessica Hughes said...

I regret to say it wasn't until near the end of Bush's term that I realized how absolutely out of control our government is.

When Obama spoke of the 'civilian security force' he would raise up, I said to my husband, an Army Veteran, "You know why? Because he knows our military will never fire on its own people."

I am a knowledge junkie and immersing myself in a study of our history from Revolution to present, I am stunned by how long we have been creeping along the path to fascism here. It is unfortunate, but perhaps necessary for some, that we are now sprinting under the O Admin. Now many people will awaken to the tyranny that has been in the making for nearly a century under both parties.

William Mason said...

My father landed on Utah Beach and then fought his way through Europe, collecting three purple hearts, bronze and silver stars, and other honors — after leaving the lifeless bodies of many of his friends on that same beach. My father loved this country more than anything, save God and his family, and, during his last days, even though he was an old man, would have gladly returned to the battlefield to support our troops in any way he could: The Gulf War was only hours from breaking open, and he so wanted to support the young men who would fight, even as he had been supported during World War II and Korea. But as much as he loved his country, he revered the Constitution — and he would be ashamed of what our politicians are doing to it today. As an Army brat, I, too, love this country more than life itself — but I revere the Constitution — and I am ashamed of what my leaders have done and are doing even now to trample on the legacy my father risked his life to pass on. More than that, I am scared — For the first time in my adult life, I can see my country slipping away from me. For 59 years I have given my allegiance to this country, and I have served her wherever I was able to do so — Now I fear I may have to take up arms to defend her heart and soul … our divinely-inspired Constitution. I only have one regret: I do not qualify to serve with you because I never wore a uniform. But know this: Should you ever be called on to carry out an illegal order, I will defend your right to refuse with my very life — After all, if it comes to that, and I think it will, all of us will be soldiers. God bless you. How I wish I had money to donate … I cannot tell you how grateful I am to know there are people like you standing guard.

William C. Mason Jr.
Son of Lt. Col. William C. Mason (deceased)
710 West Adams Park Drive
Covina, CA 91722

CaptGooch said...

To the Anonymous poster who keeps trying to divert the Oath Keepers band width into his or her own purpose.
I am the administrator who removed the posts you put up and I am the administrator that is removing them again.
Take your off topic subject matter somewhere else.

Oath Keepers does not place every single comment here and your assumption that Oath Keepers is trying to "hide" the truth or "dodging" the facts is just that an assumption that only shows your ignorance of blog site posting.

Every time you post this off topic stuff I will remove it.
I do not come by here every day BUT when I do and it is back up I will remove it again.
Go start your own blog if you feel that your ideas need to be aired in public.
Stop being a parasite mooching off of the attention gathered by others.

Not on Our Watch

CaptGooch said...

On June 30, 2009 10:03 PM
Anonymous said...
I showed you video to dozens of my friends all of whom are active duty at Seymour Johnson Air Force base. 26 of us have signed a petition which will be sent to you stating that while we believe in your cause and will uphold the constitution, we refuse to associate ourselves with you as long as your group associates with and god. If you remove such things as, "so help us God" we will immediately join your ranks.
Included in out letter to you is our names, rank, and contact information. When I signed up to serve I refused to swear, promise, or align myself with any god, including yours.
My fellow serviceman agree. This is non-negotiable. We want to join and affiliate ourselves with Oath Keepers, but will not associate ourselves with any god. If you accept this condition than know that we have each agreed to donate 250 dollars to your (our) cause.
Keep up the good work.

=================================
I, too, am not a Religious person.
But .... to say that your offer is insulting is being way too lenient.

As active duty servicemen and women did you or did you not swear to protect and defend the Constitution of the united States from all enemies foreign and domestic ?
And did not that Oath end with the words "so help me God" ? Whether you "Said" them or not matters not in the least because the Oath contains those words. It always has.

What did you do at your swearing in ceremony ? Did you attempt to bribe the attending Officer into not saying those words ?

I cannot find words enough to express my disappointment with your approach.
Why would you think that Oath Keepers would be interested in your money to the point of changing what is part of the Oath, has been since it's inception, is historically accurate and was good enough for our ancestors ?
You belittle us sirrah and I for one am not pleased in the slightest. It is well that I can not be present to offer to place your money offer where it properly belongs.

You want us to change 233 + years of history because you have a philosophical difference with the founding fathers ?
NUTS to borrow a phrase.

IF you truly are oath sworn active duty service men and women then I call on you to Honor your Oath whether you join us or not.


CaptGooch
Oath Keeper
since 1966


Not on Our Watch

Anonymous said...

Either I've gone crazy or a bunch of other people have.

I was speaking recently to a co-worker, a retired US Navy Master Chief Petty Officer. Let me repeat that, a retired master Chief Petty Officer of the United States Navy. I happened to tell him how I admired your group and how you were dedicated to honoring your oath. His (the master Chief Petty Officer's) response was "The Constitution? The military has nothing to do with the Constitution. Nothing."

Me: "No, the whole purpose of the military is to support and defend the Constitution."

Him: "The military and the Constitution have nothing to do with each other. The military is covered under the UCMJ, and the military writes the UCMJ."

Me: "I think that Congress actually is responsible for the UCMJ."

Him: "Well, Congress signs off on it, but the military is who writes it."

Me: "What about your Oath of Induction? It says right there that you swear to defend the Constitution."

Him: "Oh yeah, they have an oath, but the IMPORTANT part is the UCMJ."

Me: No response, I dropped the subject and walked away...

My point is that those of you who by your presence on this site have already demonstrated at least a concern and some understanding of the importance of your oath may underestimate how deeply, deeply, ignorant and confused many of our military are about the US Constitution, the purpose of the armed forces and the very basic principles that the US was founded on. You will not be able to reason with such people unless they first undergo a prolonged education to let them understand what is at stake.

CaptGooch said...

Anonymous,

You have not gone crazy.
The truth itself is pretty crazy and is totally at odds with the treasonous propaganda put out by the Main Stream Media. [MSM]

The Master Chief that you spoke of is typical of the brainwashed general population.

The scary part is that the New World Order/Fascist types have not even tried to hide their plans.
All of their plans for their New World Order are out and In Print.
The Media is so closely controlled that even with the CFR and TLC having published their plans the public doesn't know about them.

On the other hand most Can name the last three winners on American Idol or the current reigning WWF Champion Wrestler.

Priorities ....

Priorities provided by the "Boob-tube" and served with as short a sound bite as possible so the next one will overlap it. There is no time allowed to register the individual facts and then actually think about any of the ramifications of those facts.
Neat trick Huh ?
PsyOps at work on a National scale.
AND .... the general public would scream bloody murder if you turned off the propaganda machine for even one day.

"I want My MTV." makes more sense when you are aware of the real facts doesn't it ? Addicted to Lies.

The best you can do with a brain washed person like the Master Chief you mention is to ask them questions [which you did ...] and then let them think on them for a good long time. Sooner or later their brain will turn those questions over again and again until they start to really examine them.

Don't give up BUT it's best to let that kind come back to You rather than trying to badger them into awareness.
Move on to the next person and ask them the same questions.

The level of actual ignorance in this and most developed countries is astounding once you begin to "see" it.

Well Done.




For the Republic

Anonymous said...

We agree totally, we do not want a revolution but will not be unorganized if it comes down to that. Please if you have a myspace account add the midwest.militia@hotmail.com to your account. or email us and we will keep in contact. We must be organized and ready for whatever comes our way. We want the true American Patriots to live the lives they were meant to live by the laws they were meant to live by. Thank you. midwestern.militia@hotmail.com

CaptGooch said...

Anonymous said...
We agree totally, we do not want a revolution but will not be unorganized if it comes down to that. Please if you have a myspace account add the midwest.militia@hotmail.com to your account. or email us and we will keep in contact. We must be organized and ready for whatever comes our way. We want the true American Patriots to live the lives they were meant to live by the laws they were meant to live by. Thank you. midwestern.militia@hotmail.com
July 27, 2009 2:36 PM
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Oath Keepers does have a myspace page and a twitter page and more.

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/





Not on Our Watch

Anonymous said...

If you only knew how much your declaration means to me, your fellow American. I am so afraid of Obama and his bots and their tightening noose, yet now I feel much relieved to know that there are those who have the overwhelving force to destroy us, like yourselves, picking up on that fear and assuaging it. Thank you all so very much for your service to us and your dedication to this country's founding principles. My highest regards to you and yours. May God bless you all.

Mattey-D said...

I like the premise of the website; the guiding principles in the military are difficult to find in these changing times. I do NOT see a need for an assault weapons ban today. You did NOT put much thought into putting that addition to your declaration other than attracting more potential members. I welcome being tracked as a gun owner, I have nothing to hide. Our founding fathers did NOT hear the 6-9 round burst heard 'round the world. NOT for naught, this will tie your mind in knots.

Anonymous said...

My name is Robert Orme and I remember the oath I took and it is still in my heart and can not be taken I know I am on thier list and glad because that makes them scared.As for those who do not understand because you rely on the government for everything.Listen how quickly they change the words they use.Go back and listen to what they have said in the past.

Unknown said...

I post under my screen name because that is how I'm fairly well known at a number of blogsites and forums.
I am an Army veteran of the Viet Nam conflict. I reaffirm the oath I originally took to the US Constitution, and swear I will not cooperate with any orders contrary to its principles. I stand with Oath Keepers.
-Rurik - aka George Mellinger

CaptGooch said...

Matt said...

I like the premise of the website; the guiding principles in the military are difficult to find in these changing times. I do NOT see a need for an assault weapons ban today. You did NOT put much thought into putting that addition to your declaration other than attracting more potential members. I welcome being tracked as a gun owner, I have nothing to hide. Our founding fathers did NOT hear the 6-9 round burst heard 'round the world. NOT for naught, this will tie your mind in knots.
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Matt,

The AWB is not included in our mission because it has nothing to do with our mission as Oath Keepers.

Our mission is to prevent the need for AW's of any kind by converting the oath takers presently in the employ of those who would try to impose tyranny upon the American people into Oath Keepers who's only duty is to support and defend the Constitution and the people of these united States.

Any unlawful order has to have someone to enforce it.
When there are no willing enforcers who will impose the tyranny ?

That is the goal of Oath Keepers.
To turn all oath takers into Oath Keepers.

CaptGooch said...

Welcome to you both Rurik and Robert O.

Please do swing by our new website at oathkeepers.org.

For the Republic

CaptGooch

Anonymous said...

What happened / Where were the oathkeepers during Katrina when the police and national guard went around to private homes and confiscated lawfully owned and legal weapons?

CaptGooch said...

Anonymous said...
What happened / Where were the oathkeepers during Katrina when the police and national guard went around to private homes and confiscated lawfully owned and legal weapons?
September 22, 2009 2:27 PM
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Oath keepers was not formed until March of 2009. You want what ? For us to have time travel and we can go back in time to correct the wrongs ?

Where were You ?

Why weren't YOU there crying out against the violations of the Constitution ?

The events in NOLA spurred the creation of Oath Keepers.
Oath Keepers was created on March 2nd, 2009.

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